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brtaman
Wed Oct 14 2009, 04:50PM Print
brtaman Registered Member #2161 Joined: Fri Jun 05 2009, 03:36PM
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Hey,

I finished a nice and simple relay time delay a couple days ago. i was wondering what length of time you guys have your delay set-up at?

If I adjusted the circuit for a time delay of a bit less than a second, the resistors (5W 10ohm metal-oxide, 30 ohm), go extremely hot and finally one failed.

If I set it @ ~0.2 seconds with the same resistor config, the delay would function but as soon as the relay shorted the resistors the breaker went of..

With the same time setting with a single 5W 10ohm resistor, all the happens is a major resistor pop and subsequent death.

The capacitor itself is a 450 1000uF lytic.


Thanks,
brtaman
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Oct 14 2009, 04:53PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Hi, what is your mains voltage? For 230V you can use ~4.7R resistor (I actually used 3R3 without problems), and for 120V mains maybe 2.2-2.7R. Then 0.2s should really be enough.

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brtaman
Wed Oct 14 2009, 04:56PM
brtaman Registered Member #2161 Joined: Fri Jun 05 2009, 03:36PM
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Hey Dr. Kilovolt,

Thanks for the amazingly quick reply. :D

I'm central Europe so 220V. I'll just parallel two of these babies so I don't get another rather large exploding resistor. cheesey

Oh yeah, forgot to answer your question in the fake choke thread, the exploding GDT was CAT5, which is why I found the whole ordeal strange.
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Proud Mary
Wed Oct 14 2009, 06:12PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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For mains inrush, I allow 5 cycles or 100milliseconds, Rok. Any more and your resistor will cook.

I have another job lot of parts coming from Russia, including a box of 180R 25W cased heatsink-type resistors - if you put three of these in parallel, you'll have 60R 75W, which I'd say was about right for your soft starter, and will definitely hold for 100 milliseconds until the relay kicks in. I'll send three when they get here.
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brtaman
Wed Oct 14 2009, 06:19PM
brtaman Registered Member #2161 Joined: Fri Jun 05 2009, 03:36PM
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Harry wrote ...

For mains inrush, I allow 5 cycles or 100milliseconds, Rok. Any more and your resistor will cook.

I have another job lot of parts coming from Russia, including a box of 180R 25W cased heatsink-type resistors - if you put three of these in parallel, you'll have 60R 75W, which I'd say was about right for your soft starter, and will definitely hold for 100 milliseconds until the relay kicks in. I'll send three when they get here.

Much obliged. Thanks! shades
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