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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Oct 10 2009, 07:44AM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I don't quite get this - what is the advantage of a DRSSTC system, when you can use a turn or two of copper strip as the primary and get the same peak currents with a classic SSTC driver?

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Lethal Shot
Sat Oct 10 2009, 08:32AM
Lethal Shot Registered Member #1623 Joined: Tue Aug 05 2008, 03:31PM
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I'm not an expert on this but when you use a DRSSTC you can have a primary coil of multipy windings which increase coupling to the secondary and thus better energy transfer.
With an SSTC it isn't possible to achieve this because the impendance from the coil will limit the current no matter how thick you make your wire.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Oct 10 2009, 09:08AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Lethal Shot wrote ...

I'm not an expert on this but when you use a DRSSTC you can have a primary coil of multipy windings which increase coupling to the secondary and thus better energy transfer.
Well if you make the primary say from a copper sheet of the same width as the DRSSTC primary (if you need more turns, wind them layered), the coupling should be about the same, or not?


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Steve Conner
Sat Oct 10 2009, 11:34AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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DRSSTC has three advantages:

1: Tuned primary acts as a L-match, giving another stage of impedance step-up between inverter and sparks. This allows heavier inverter loading and bigger sparks, while still having coupling loose enough to avoid flashovers. You'd probably need less than one turn to achieve the same with a non-resonant primary.

2: Tuned primary has no magnetizing current, so the devices can switch at zero current. This allows you to push IGBTs beyond their datasheet current and frequency limits (typically they can carry more current than they can switch) Result, even bigger sparks!

3: Tuned primary can tune out the stray inductance of your layout too! With a single-turn untuned primary, the stray inductance might become a significant limiting factor. Result, even more current and bigger sparks still...
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Ken Herrick
Wed Dec 02 2009, 10:38PM
Ken Herrick Registered Member #2489 Joined: Mon Nov 30 2009, 06:23PM
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From my recent simulations I seem to be concluding that the DR scheme is best, with feedback, if any, from the primary rather than the secondary. See Link2 Comments on that?...

Also, a question: What's the best tuning for the primary? Spot-on to the secondary's nominal Fr, tuned high (by how much?) or tuned low?

KCH
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StevenCaton
Wed Dec 02 2009, 11:32PM
StevenCaton Registered Member #1845 Joined: Fri Dec 05 2008, 05:38AM
Location: California
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Tune your primary lower

Large Sparks will drop the operating frequency of the secondary resonator, as they add capacitance.


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