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<OT> Failed experiment yields unusual "magnetic" crystals

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Conundrum
Sat Oct 03 2009, 06:53PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.

Apologies for the long post but..

you may know that I received some gallium metal. Upon alloying it with indium I attempted to "paint" some onto a square glass vessel with the intention of using it as an electrolysis cell.
Metered it, and it measured around 3-4 ohms across long axis of container, and then did the plating experiment using bicarbonate solution and a silver plated copper wire.
Needless to say it didn't work. Resistance increased to 1-2K, and the alloy "balled up" and fell off the edges. $!£*!.

Figured that I could probably salvage some of the alloy by mopping up with Al foil, which somewhat worked. Put this and some fresh GaIn alloy in a test dish, and attempted to recover some of the lost alloy by allowing it to react.

Put alloy mixture into distilled water a few hours later, got a ball of GaIn + some Al. Upon returning the next day it had partially reacted again and oxidised.

Tried again, this time adding more water to (hopefully salvage some more). Upon returning two days later all the water had evaporated, leaving some strange silvery crystals, particles of unreacted Ga and some black "ash".

Upon putting this into more water, I tried putting a magnet near it while the metal was reacting. Interestingly, some of the previously inert crystals caused the solution to rotate away from the magnet pole.
Some of the black crystals aligned with the pole when put in a separate jar, and followed it around.

Any ideas? this seems a little strange, as none of the metals I used contained iron. The properties seem centred on the whitish metallic crystals, which don't dissolve in water.

-A
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Bored Chemist
Sat Oct 03 2009, 07:54PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Al foil is not pure Al. A bit of iron in it wouldn't surprise me.
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Sulaiman
Sat Oct 03 2009, 08:06PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I'm not sure but aren't Indium and Gallium diamagnetic?
If so that would explain the repulsion.
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Proud Mary
Sun Oct 25 2009, 11:12AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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According to European Patent Specification EP 0 75685B1 aluminium foil may contain 1.2% - 2% Fe, as well as Mn, Mg, Si, and Ti, the balance being made up by commercial grade aluminium.
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Conundrum
Sun Oct 25 2009, 05:10PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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thanks harry :)

-A
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MinorityCarrier
Mon Oct 26 2009, 06:19PM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
Location: Bend, Oregon
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Gallium readily alloys with Aluminum, and the alloy reacts with water to oxidize the Aluminum, release Hydrogen and leave little blobs of Gallium.
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