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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Sept 21 2009, 08:01PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Hi all,
my friend would like to have a portable (light-weight) solution to control the voltage to his DRSSTC bridge. It is fed from doubled 230V mains (~660VDC max on the caps).

Would it be possible to regulate the voltage with a SCR or a Triac?

I guess the peak currents might be huge though, may a moderately-sized inductor fix this problem?
What about the SCR gate control, would the simple diac circuit suffice, or would I need a dedicated mains-synchronised adjustable phase-lag circuit?

Thanks for any ideas


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Arcstarter
Mon Sept 21 2009, 08:20PM
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Link2
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Wolfram
Mon Sept 21 2009, 09:06PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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That's only a partial schematic, the rest of it is here: Link2 and Link2


Anders M.
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Arcstarter
Mon Sept 21 2009, 10:28PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Anders M. wrote ...

That's only a partial schematic, the rest of it is here: Link2 and Link2


Anders M.
Ohhh, shoot. Thanks! I guess i did not look before i pasted. Sorry about that!
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lightlinked
Mon Sept 21 2009, 10:52PM
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is solid state control just as good as a variac? could you have a comparator watching the bridge voltage to control the power switch (triac on ac or a fet/igbt after the rectifier) or is a pwm controller like a tl494 necessary?
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Nicko
Tue Sept 22 2009, 05:24AM
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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Anders M. wrote ...

That's only a partial schematic, the rest of it is here: Link2 and Link2
Steve has asked me to do some PCBs for this, but it won;t be until the end of the year... (manic work all the time & Cambridge coming up).
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Sept 22 2009, 06:49AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Thanks for the schematics, but I'm afraid they're a little too complicated for him...
I can make a simple adjustable phase lag circuit using a 74HC14 chip and some passive components, I hope that would be just good enough.

My other question was about the choke/inductor, as I have no idea what value to use.


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Steve Conner
Tue Sept 22 2009, 11:02AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Hey guys

A few people have done simpler versions of my circuit over the years, check the forum and archives.

I myself have a simpler one with two 555s:
Link2

This page also discusses inductors. A large one (say 5mH) improves the power factor. But if you don't mind poor power factor, you can get away with a much smaller one. You calculate the required inductance from the peak mains voltage and your SCR's critical di/dt value. For beefy SCR bricks, the stray inductance of the mains wiring may well be enough! But bear in mind that any EMI filter upstream of the SCR may contain capacitors that would negate it.

You may be able to get away with a dimmer switch designed for transformer loads. Or then again, you may not suprised The complexity of my circuits is partly because they're hard fired and guaranteed to "dim" any load.

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