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Mini Brute Voltage Regulators getting HOT!!!

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Brandon
Fri Sept 04 2009, 01:51PM Print
Brandon Registered Member #2334 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 07:02PM
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I have just completed the electrical construction part of the Mini Brute. When I applied power to the Resonant Board the regulators got very HOT... I have no chips installed in the sockets, I am using the stated 18VAC transformer, I have inspected the board looking for shorts or soldier spots and found nothing. I have no other boards plugged in to the Resonant Board. However I did take some measurements. 1. On the +5 VDC regulator pin 3 to ground I see 2.5k ohms, and on the +15 VDC regulator pin 3 to ground I see 3.3k ohms. Since this is the frist time I am constructing one of these I have no Idea what the norm should be for this circuit. Has anyone else had a simular problem?
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StevenCaton
Fri Sept 04 2009, 03:19PM
StevenCaton Registered Member #1845 Joined: Fri Dec 05 2008, 05:38AM
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Do you have the ribbon cable plugged into the resonant board just dangling off not connected to anything?
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Brandon
Fri Sept 04 2009, 03:22PM
Brandon Registered Member #2334 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 07:02PM
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No I have nothing connected to the Resonant Board... The only cable is for power.
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Arcstarter
Fri Sept 04 2009, 05:35PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Did you use alot of flux? Did the solder leave flux? This has shorted out boards i have made. I just took some carburetor cleaner as prescribed by people from 4HV, and cleaned it off. I also use a nylon brush on my dremel, after using the carb cleaner. If i hadn't have done that, there would be shorts everywhere.
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StevenCaton
Fri Sept 04 2009, 06:20PM
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Well, there has to be some kind of short between ground and the +5V and +15V leads. Did you orient the electrolytics correctly. If there is nothing connected into the resonant board and you have no IC's on it, then most likely one of the electrolytic caps are either installed incorrectly or blown, or a combo of the two, and this is shorting out your regulators. Did you blow the diodes that form the half wave rectifier for the transformer?
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HV Enthusiast
Sat Sept 05 2009, 01:15AM
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Firstly, did you measure input and output voltages of the regulators? You should be doing this FIRST and FOREMOST. You should be getting 5V output and 15V output and at least 17VDC at the input of both regulators.

Secondly, since both regulators seem to be affected, I'm guessing something is installed wrong or blown on the front (input) end of the regulator circuit. Electrolytics installed backwards, Tantalums installed backards, Diodes installed improperly????

Finally, check all parts with polarity on the board. Tantalums installed backwards will act as a short. Also, diodes installed backwards (especially those 1N5819 protection diodes, will act as a short.

1. Check your input and output voltages
2. Check your polarities of all components

Also, if you have a short on one regulator, it could be pulling down the other regulator due to the input voltage dropping below 17VDC.

If i had my bets, I say you have a tantalum in backwards somewhere.
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Brandon
Sat Sept 05 2009, 01:53AM
Brandon Registered Member #2334 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 07:02PM
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Thanks forcall the great information. I will put it all to good use tomorrow and let you knowwhat I found.
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Brandon
Sun Sept 06 2009, 06:40PM
Brandon Registered Member #2334 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 07:02PM
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I checked and all components are installed but, I found that that CR-63 was bad (shorted). The 5VDC is working perfect and cool. On the 15VDC I found the if I remove C4,5 & 68 the 15VDC works perfect. So I shall change these components.
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