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tank capacitor contruction for induction heating

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Hernan
Tue Sept 08 2009, 02:22AM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
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thanks Finn this is exactly what I'm looking for.

today I started to solder the caps between cooper strips but I'll need more powerful soldering tip to make the soldering fast to avoid damaging the caps.

I was thinking to make a parallel plate capacitor stacking many aluminium plates between PP film but I don't Know if it is a viable option because after some calculations I noticed that I'll need more than 20 plates in parallel to reach some interesting capacitance

regards,

Hernán

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lpfthings
Tue Sept 08 2009, 06:35AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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I'd think a blowtorch would work too if you already have one, just make sure you point it away from your caps! :-X
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GeordieBoy
Tue Sept 08 2009, 09:08AM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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If it was me I'd stump up the money and by the component designed for the job. You're saving loads of money making your own Induction Heater anyway, so I'd buy the dedicated capacitor now that you have debugged your design. It will save you loads of grief trying to make something yourself.

-Richie,
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Steve Conner
Tue Sept 08 2009, 09:46AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Yep. The capacitor in that auction is the same one I used to melt bolts. I got mine for $39, so that's even more of a bargain.
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uzzors2k
Tue Sept 08 2009, 01:39PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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Finn Hammer wrote ...

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NOOO! I just missed it. angry That's it, I'm setting that category as my homepage now.
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Hernan
Tue Sept 08 2009, 02:46PM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
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Me too .Ouch! jaja ( nelson's tricky laugh)I'm Simpsons Fan.

I'll give a chance to my caps

regards,
Hernán
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Hernan
Mon Sept 14 2009, 03:01AM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
Location: Argentina
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Hi all ,
Today I finished the tank capacitor for my series IH .I used some cooper strips and solid cooper wire.
the total capacitance is 0.175 uF and the resonant freq. is 174 Khz aprox.
the mains current was 5A at 220Vac . the caps worked cool with small flow of air from a cooler . The setup Is a half bridge voltage source inverter with a matching HF transformer with 10:1 ratio . the secondary turn is water cooled. the sec current was 140A so I´m very happy with the results of these caps .I think that I can reach 190 A with a bigger cooler.:) or liquid cooling would be better

for the moment It is hand tuned but I'll use 4046 IC

I took some pics

1252897230 1614 FT75446 100 2318

1252897230 1614 FT75446 100 2319

1252897230 1614 FT75446 100 2322

1252897230 1614 FT75446 100 2327

1252897230 1614 FT75446 100 2321
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Steve Conner
Mon Sept 14 2009, 08:44AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Looks great :) Are you using the series feed topology, then, as opposed to LCLR? I always preferred series feed myself.

Also, what material is the large toroid made of?
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Hernan
Mon Sept 14 2009, 11:23AM
Hernan Registered Member #1614 Joined: Wed Jul 30 2008, 03:08PM
Location: Argentina
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Thanks Steve, I thought to use LCLR but I decided to use series because my caps wouldn't tolerate much current and because I wanted to try this setup.I like both setups but I would like to test current fed inverter with a parallel tank in future ( when I find a proper power capacitor)

The big toroid is ZP49725 type P material from Magnetics.
But now I have to implement a PLL because I hate to stay with a screwdriver to tune it
I need to lock the freq slightly inductive to proper working of lossless snubbers caps.
You have a pll circuit for your setup or is hand-tuned?

regards,
Hernán
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Steve Conner
Mon Sept 14 2009, 11:34AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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I used a PLL, basically one of my DRSSTC driver boards. Uzzors published a PLL circuit that's designed specially for induction heating, though.

I don't see how the series feed setup would reduce the current through the capacitors compared to a LCLR: it'll be just about the same.
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