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teravolt
Mon Apr 10 2006, 01:14AM Print
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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I have lurned a little pspice 9.2 and have designed an optimal tesla circuit with a voltage multplication of 3000. Now I know that duplicating this in realty is a differant story but couldn't I make some thing that could aproch this like 1500. I have seen some secondaries that have spaces in the windings that essentialy reduce distributive capasitance has anybody tried this?
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Sulaiman
Mon Apr 10 2006, 02:57AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Generally the increase in "Q" using spaced windings
(to reduce proximity effect and self-capacitance)
results in lower inductance/resistance than a close-wound coil,
and once even a tiny bit of corona develops the "Q" plummets.
Try your simulation with 100 kOhms from topload to earth,
even 1 MOhm is significant.

To all of this add the most difficult part of TC simulation;
how to parameterise the arc impedance?

Some aspects of TCs are best simulated
(SGTC/DRSSTC etc. - two coupled self-resonant circuits
giving the 'double peak' or 'frequency-splitting' for example)
mostly it's best to try in practice to get a 'feel' for things.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Mon Apr 10 2006, 03:42AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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I'd like to know what your model looks like and what parameters you used.

I've been simulating the source and capacitence matches to find the optimal system power transfer.
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Apr 10 2006, 12:20PM
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Check out Terry Fritz's paper on "Modeled Voltage and Current Waveforms in a Tesla Coil" Its available on Link2 under Terry's section and provides a good insight to modeling a tesla coil (spark gap type) in PSPICE.
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Desmogod
Thu Apr 13 2006, 12:57PM
Desmogod Registered Member #139 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 11:01AM
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Teravolt,
Do you mind posting a copy of your pspice model so we can all play?
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Finn Hammer
Thu Apr 13 2006, 05:39PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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Dr Desmo wrote ...

Teravolt,
Do you mind posting a copy of your pspice model so we can all play?

Here is a copy of the one I used.
It was made by Terry Fritz for my 300 BPS sync roraty amazed Link2 , back when I was working on Equal bangsize at that breakrate. You can always delete the extra electrodes for 100/120BPS service.
Schematic file here: -> Link2

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Apr 13 2006, 06:23PM
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I believe Richie Burnett has some spark gap PSPICE models on his website as well.
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teravolt
Fri Apr 14 2006, 03:07AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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thanks everybody for seting my cumpass pointed in the right direction. I am using mesured and simulated data to get my model to work. I am tesla and electronics savy but not to savy with puting stuff on this site like files and folders and scematics but I am working on it.
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