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Weaker flyback with better resistors!

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voyagerscout
Thu Jun 04 2009, 06:55PM Print
voyagerscout Registered Member #1696 Joined: Sat Sept 13 2008, 06:01PM
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Hello everybody.
Last weekend I decided to build a new flyback circuit.
I used the simple 2n3350 circuit, which most of you are familiar with.
I used the 2 resistors, 27 and 220 Ohm, but, those were rated for a max of 0.25 Watt.
I boxed the circuit, and the flyback worked fine (arcing up to 2,5 cm).
But, after some time, for some reason i decided to take a look inside, and found out I completly burned the resistors beyond recognision(but the circuit still worked).
So, I bought 2 new ones, rated for 5 Watt.
I thought my flyback would work better with the new resistors, but now it only arcs up to 1 cm, and the resistors get REALLY hot.
Anyone got an idea why this happened?

Greeting, Voyagerscout

(btw, sorry for my bad English ^^ Still learning)
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Z28Fistergod
Fri Jun 05 2009, 01:18AM
Z28Fistergod Registered Member #2040 Joined: Fri Mar 20 2009, 10:13PM
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If those are the wire wound type then you have introduced some inductance into the circuit. I can't recall the schematic from memory to tell you how much it matters, so I'll let you figure that out. I would definitely check that out if I were you.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Jun 05 2009, 07:56AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I would measure the resistance of the old and new resistors and make sure they match, the old resistors may have changed their resistance after they "burned in" cheesey
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Proud Mary
Fri Jun 05 2009, 08:28AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Diagnosis by smell! smile

You should never use power resistors in a sealed cabinet. They need plenty of ventilation, and many partly depend on their own leads to sink heat.

I don't think that's what your problem is here, but it will become one if you run resistors hot, and let them start heating up everything else in the box.

It's quite OK for wire-wounds to feel very warm to the touch, but if you over-heat them the ceramic will start to crack off, as well as damaging nearby components.
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voyagerscout
Tue Jun 09 2009, 10:38AM
voyagerscout Registered Member #1696 Joined: Sat Sept 13 2008, 06:01PM
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Ow oke ^^
Yes they are wirewound.
I now installed a fan, which cools te heatsink of the n3350 transistor, but also cools the inside of the box.
Now the arc is max. 3 cm :D
I havent got a clue why, but hey, it works ^^ (this is not the real spirit of a scientist though...)
thnx for the replies!
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Proud Mary
Tue Jun 09 2009, 11:46AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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A problem cured! First rate! First rate! smile
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