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polop
Mon May 18 2009, 04:41PM Print
polop Registered Member #1537 Joined: Thu Jun 12 2008, 06:44PM
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is it possible to drive a motor using a high power opamp, without all the shrapnel they say to use in the data sheet. ie just a voltage follower connected to a motor with a protection diode.


ps, the opamp i am proposing is this one Link2
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big5824
Mon May 18 2009, 05:48PM
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well without telling us what rating the motor is we cant do much....but that opamp can output 3A tops, so if your motor draws less than that then i dont see why not.

However youd be much better off using a MOSFET as the driver, and then just use a low power cheaper op amp to control it.
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Sulaiman
Mon May 18 2009, 05:51PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If you look at the data sheet you'll see there's an internal diode
from the output pin to the +Vs pin,
so if you're going to operate in a unipolar mode (one direction only, Motor+ to +Vs)
the internal diode should suffice.

Personally I'd add 2 diodes as in Figure 1 of the data sheet
whether unipolar or bipolar (Fwd/Rev).
Internal SOA and thermal protection should cover most other fault conditions.
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polop
Mon May 18 2009, 06:59PM
polop Registered Member #1537 Joined: Thu Jun 12 2008, 06:44PM
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h the motor specs are quite low, i was thinking two of the small flat sided motors less than an amp i total i guess. i will be driving it bipolar, so that when the output of the opamp is positive the motor turns one way and when it is negative it turns the other way.
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Steve Conner
Tue May 19 2009, 09:38AM
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When I've needed to do this in the past, I made an H-bridge with four power BJTs, driven by two regular small-signal op-amps, plus some booster transistors, as the op-amps couldn't give enough current to drive power transistors directly.

For an inductive load, two clamp diodes per output are certainly a good idea. I was driving peltiers, not motors, so I didn't need them.
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Sulaiman
Tue May 19 2009, 06:53PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If battery powered you may want to consider a full H-bridge package/ic.

For the cost of postage I can send a couple of LMD18245T packages,
though they're meant for 12-50 V supply.

The inductance and inertia of electric motors makes them ideal candidates for PWM controllers.
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polop
Wed May 20 2009, 01:43PM
polop Registered Member #1537 Joined: Thu Jun 12 2008, 06:44PM
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thanks allot for the offer, though in the design i am wanting to make there will be no microprocessor, it is all analogue, i amy go with a design similar to the motor controll section of this schematic. Link2 and for clarity the project as a whole will be similar to this schematic with some modifications.
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Bjørn
Wed May 20 2009, 03:50PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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PWM has nothing to with microprocessors, why not have a look at the specificatiuons and datasheet? Link2
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polop
Wed May 20 2009, 05:38PM
polop Registered Member #1537 Joined: Thu Jun 12 2008, 06:44PM
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as far as i can see the input for that device is a 4bit binary that is internally converted to analogue to make the pwm signal, as my project does not have a microprocessor ii cannot produce the binary number necessary to drive the chip, hence any pwm ic i use will have to have a voltage controlled driving circuitry.

p.s. i did look at the data sheet before posting previously.
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MinorityCarrier
Wed May 20 2009, 07:01PM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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Just buy a 10-position 4-bit BCD switch or a 16-position true binary switch, and use these to control the 4-bit data line. No uC or any other digital chips required.
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