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Conundrum
Wed May 13 2009, 08:22PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.
I did find a way to make glass/metal feedthroughs.
What you do is get your glass sphere, bowl etc, heat the spot to be fed through to red heat with a convenient blowlamp..
Then position it so the metal feedthrough is pressing on the red hot area and then microwave it until it is correctly set
It relies on the conductivity of hot glass :)

Best to use a preheated (convection) combination microwave then slowly cool to prevent the glass shattering..
Also it might work for holding tungsten welding electrodes for spark gaps etc.

-A
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Nik
Thu May 14 2009, 10:07PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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Cool application of microwaves! I read a W Beaty article on "unwise microwave experiments" and melting glass with microwaves was mentions, I never thought it could have any practical use.
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Proud Mary
Fri May 15 2009, 11:16AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
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I have a contact in Russia who is able to supply high current fusible glass feed-throughs. This leaves the constructor with only problem of fusing glass to glass, rather than the problem of trying to seal round a metal rod, with all its co-efficient of thermal expansion problems.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri May 15 2009, 08:03PM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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What kind of glass and what kind of metal are you using?

I was trying to seal stainless into boro glass, which isn't supposed to work because the expansion coefficients are too different. One seal looked like it worked for a while, but of course cracked later because I don't have an annealing oven.

For soft soda glass you can seal copper, stainless, kovar, nickel, a variety of materials, but the trouble here is obtaining lab quality soft glass because the distributers sell boro for the most part.

You could probably get away with sealing the glass like Harry is saying, but I think the whole must be annealed due to possible stresses. I have seen in my books that when you're doing an operation like this, the glassblower wraps the leading tube with asbestos tape to prevent heat transfer to the sensitive area. Now asbestos tape really isn't available so much these days, but you might be able to find some fiberglass cloth and make a tape out of that to prevent heat transfer.

Thats at least what ive seen.
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Conundrum
Sat May 16 2009, 07:21PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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haven't tried it yet, need to get a microwave. main issue is going to be safety, but theoretically it should work if the oven is preheated first.

-A
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Proud Mary
Sun May 17 2009, 02:59AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I can not more strongly recommend the chapters on glass-to-metal seals
in Vacuum Tube Design - RCA In-house lecture series, 1940.

The whole fat book may be downloaded free here:


Link2
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Coronafix
Sun May 17 2009, 07:16AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Nice link Harry! That page should go on the resources thread. Thanks.
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