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rp181
Tue May 05 2009, 12:31AM
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So no one knows why that kind of voltage is showing? I re set up everything on peg board for ease, and I still get 100v out. I did get a 12v 7W car headlight bulb to light brightly, but it was no great thing considering the coil was right up to it, and the source coil was drawing massive current (enough to make the capacitor lead glow orange and IGBT instantly boil water). The light turns on when I use a square wave, and adjust the offset, though the offset causes massive heating on the IGBT.

All my equipment was free, from some nice people.
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twist2b
Tue May 05 2009, 09:14PM
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WOW... Thats HOTTTTTTTTTT
Is there no better way then wasting so much amperage?

It seems that wireless power still has a way to go... considering how much is wasted for so little -_-


So, under your tests, whats your thoughts on sine/square wave? Which is better?
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rp181
Tue May 05 2009, 09:39PM
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Getting higher efeciancy is possiable, I just wanted to push the limit and see what would happen. From my tests, square wave gives a better output due to the gate drive, but the end result will always be sine due to the resonant action.
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twist2b
Wed May 06 2009, 04:40AM
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Hey, think you guys will find this cool:
The ARRL Antenna Book:
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The theories of best transmition and reception.
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rp181
Thu May 07 2009, 03:04AM
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My library has that, ile check it out.

I will most likley be getting 200' of 18 AWG litz wire (175/40, or 150 strands of 40 AWG each), I will see how that goes.
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Marko
Fri May 08 2009, 08:05PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi guys,

The whole point of using parallel resonance in this circuit is to allow for great reactive current to circulate in the loop while having amplifier provide only the real power required.

If you take a a closer look at my video, you can see that I used a 10mm copper pipe for my 'coil', and 8 paralleled capacitors to assure highest possible current handling capability. Capacitors are 6.8nF 1000V wima fkp1, and they get hot in the circuit. It's pretty obvious that little ceramic capacitors aren't going to last in this kind of use -they are mostly intended for DC filtering and have high dielectric losses at these frequencies.

There is over 25 amperes continuously flowing in the tank circuit and 6mm copper pipe I used previously would actually get hot in prolonged operation. The receiver coil is rather undersized 3mm copper wire, which gets hot and apparently wastes as much as 5 watts of power.

I don't want to be evil, but I just don't think you guys have enough xp points to actually even produce 1kW of power in low Mhz range for extended periods of time. I'm not sure if I have either, despite the simplicity of the intended topology.

The resonator itself must be designed to be able to dissipate majority of this power as heat.

The simplest approach for higher power levels would be to basically build a SSTC, and then replace the secondary with a low impedance resonator and take current feedback from it.

You could perhaps use some simple Vaccum tube oscillator as well, like the original MIT experiment did.

Marko
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rp181
Fri May 08 2009, 08:38PM
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I do not think I have enough experience yet either, but that is my long term goal. I do realise that ceramic capacitor's are not very good, hopefully i can get my hands on a induction heater capacitor.
I am not going high power now at all, I am just trying things with low power, less than 5W.
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