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EEYORE

Sat Apr 25 2009, 01:46AM

Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
Location: florida, usa
Posts: 637

Hello all,
Seeing as one member blew off some steam on frustrating customer service, I thought I would also. I also am asking for advice on what to do here.

I bought some items from Heruursciences on ebay. I paid the same day, $110.00.
Some time goes by and I ask where my things are. He gives me some tracking number that says the item was missent or something. A few days later it claims it was delivered. Well, It wasnt delivered to me!

Anyways, I figured it was "lost or stolen" after the lady from USPS on the phone advised me it was eligble for insurance claim. I contacted the seller for the insurance. This is when things went BAD!

Chris Leubner (Heruursciences) told me that if I wanted ANYTHING from him, I had to go to the police station and claim someone stole my package! He then said he would get his taxes adjsuted and money for this since it was STILL under him as the owner.

I told him that that was rediculous and WREAKED of FRAUD. I contacted paypal and they sided in my favor. (His delivery confirmation wasnt adequate according to their rules). I got my money back and then left things alone. Later I find he has been slandering my on his EBay "ME" page. I then left him negative feedback for his antics.

Things begin to get WORSE! He buys an item from me and immediately lets me know I am in over my head. (In other words, he lets me know hes going to retaliate). He then tells me how he could use paypal to screw me over. I asked him to cancel the transaction. Once his time was up to pay without getting a strike, he cancelled the deal.

Things get WORSE! He then files an unpaid item dispute for the two items that I PAID for! They immediately turn to strikes! I appealed with the paypal payment info and got one removed. (No idea why the other is there).

I contact ebay and let them know all that has transpired. I then get an email from him sounding very nasty!
I alerted the folks at alt.lasers about him. He THEN POSTS ALL MY PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM EBAY ON THE WEB! Thats my home address, phone number, name, ect. Hes sick.

What do I do? Help?
Matt

Chris

Sat Apr 25 2009, 02:06AM

Registered Member #8 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 04:34AM
Location: Harlowton, MT, United States
Posts: 214

Isn't that the guy that got busted for MDMA manufacture or something?

Proud Mary

Sat Apr 25 2009, 02:15AM

Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992

I don't know how things stand with the law where you live, but I'd say there was more than a mere civil dispute here - a decent cop could make three or four charges out of what he's done - so it might be worth a go reporting it as a crime - fraud and blackmail, for example.

In the mean time, I'd ignore further correspondence or threats from this man, as that might only drag you in deeper.

It all sounds very nasty, and I wish there was more I could do to set your mind at rest.

EEYORE

Sat Apr 25 2009, 05:38AM

Registered Member #99 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:10PM
Location: florida, usa
Posts: 637

Harry wrote ...

I don't know how things stand with the law where you live, but I'd say there was more than a mere civil dispute here - a decent cop could make three or four charges out of what he's done - so it might be worth a go reporting it as a crime - fraud and blackmail, for example.

In the mean time, I'd ignore further correspondence or threats from this man, as that might only drag you in deeper.

It all sounds very nasty, and I wish there was more I could do to set your mind at rest.

This has been so draining on me. Right before finals week too! Got my Advanced Circuit's test and then Engineering Math in a few days! UGGG!
I hate this man so much! Id love to go to the cops, but they are useless where I live. They hate to deal with us college kids for any reason. Im sure this asshat has got things down pat. I see that ANYTIME someone has a problem with him, he instantly lights them on fire. Ebay ALLOWS you to issue an unpaid item strike on someone (Even if they paid by paypal) just CUZ the seller says so! Two in a row and your SUSPENDED!

They also let buyers leave negative feedback, DESPITE the buyer not paying! SHEESH!

This guy has his method down pat. He has immediate actions that are calm and calculated. Knows how to screw people over and completely abuse ebay and paypal for his own liking. The only way you have a good time with him is if you get your stuff AND like it! (On his own time at that!)

It just burns me up that people like this get away with this kind of crap. He buys alot of shoddy junk and gets top dollar, and has NO ONE to answer to!

The INSTANT I let him know there was a problem, he BUYS something I had on ebay that had been up for a MONTH (buy it now). It was the same kind of thing he has many of, just at a higher price than what he gets. (Its obvious what his intentions were). I asked him to kindly cancel the deal by agreeing to my request. He waits and then does so. (After he saw that I had let off his case about things).

He need a good beat down. I reported him for numerous ebay violations. We will see how ebay justice pans out I guess. I will keep everyone informed here. Feel free to give some advice as to what to do.
Matt

Steve Conner

Sat Apr 25 2009, 07:55AM

Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706

I've heard similar tales in the past. The guy's ebay handle was different, but it still began with heru.

I also heard the story about him getting busted. The version I heard was that he was trying to make meth, and it made such a foul smell that the other residents in his block called the police.

Chris Russell might be able to dig something out of the archives on this.

Proud Mary

Sat Apr 25 2009, 08:43AM

Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992

Don't let this small-time crook get in the way of your exams, lad! OK, you've been cheated, but it's something you'll forget soon enough, but you won't forget flunking your exams if you let yourself get distracted.

You won't get your money back, so the very best thing is to let go of it altogether till after your finals, and get your head down to some serious exam revision.

One of life's lessons, I'm afraid, Eeyore, but your life will move on to a good career, whilst the man who's cheated and abused you will only ever be a small time crook.

Scott Fusare

Sat Apr 25 2009, 10:42AM

Registered Member #531 Joined: Sat Feb 17 2007, 10:51AM
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Posts: 125

Sorry to hear of your negative experience with HERUURSCIENCE. I have bought a number of items from Chris over the past years. All have been exactly as advertised and at a good price. My only issue was a delay in shipment on a RF excited CO2 laser I bought recently. He can be a bit flaky but the uniqueness of his offerings have made it worth the risk.

Just my 2c.....

c4r0

Sat Apr 25 2009, 01:31PM

Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
Location: Poland
Posts: 153

I bought two items from this guy too, and it was all OK.

Chris Russell

Sat Apr 25 2009, 04:58PM

... not Russel!
Registered Member #1 Joined: Thu Jan 26 2006, 12:18AM
Location: Tempe, Arizona
Posts: 1052

Chris wrote ...

Isn't that the guy that got busted for MDMA manufacture or something?

Yep, the guy is bad news. Check:

According to the articles, he got off very very lightly for MDMA manufacture, and all of his eBay transactions were subjected to intense scrutiny by the police. I'd definitely avoid being associated with anyone like that, if for no other reason than privacy concerns. His posting of Matt's info makes it clear that he respects his buyers' privacy just about as much as the DEA.

At any rate, he's likely still on parole. I wouldn't hesitate to contact law enforcement if it becomes an issue of harassment. For now, it seems like Matt has the right idea -- dispute all the attempted retaliations with eBay, report his behavior, and then steer the hell clear of this nutcase.

Hon1nbo

Sat Apr 25 2009, 05:56PM

Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: Pacific Northwest USA
Posts: 1042

As Harry said, do not let this stop you from studying for your exams - you don't want to end up like the guy messing with you.

this is not just a petty crime, this is serious once he starts trying to charge you again for the same items you already paid for, and even more serious is his posting all of your personal information: luckily, PayPal doesn't allow automatic transactions to take your money from your bank/credit card accounts without direct interaction...
if by the time after your exams this has not been resolved, and please as a last resort, there is the IC3 - Internet Crime Complaint Center

given that this guy has a record, and he is plastering your account (spam), defrauding your status both in public feedback AND to eBay/PayPal officials (libel/slander, and for the eBay and PayPal Fraud), if he claimed the money via PayPal and does not send your items to you (Larceny, possible Grand Larceny depending on where you live), and if I recall correctly, he has no legal right to just post all of your info online, assuming he never stated he would in the eBay listing...

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