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Frosty90
Thu Apr 02 2009, 05:04AM Print
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
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hi all,

does anyone know if there is an analytical way to find a solution to an equation of the form bx+Ce^(x)=0, rather than using a numerical method like newtons rule?

Cheers,
Jesse
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Z28Fistergod
Thu Apr 02 2009, 12:15PM
Z28Fistergod Registered Member #2040 Joined: Fri Mar 20 2009, 10:13PM
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What term are you solving for?
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Frosty90
Fri Apr 03 2009, 12:58AM
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
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solving for x, b c constant
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Mike
Fri Apr 03 2009, 04:32AM
Mike Registered Member #58 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40AM
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hmm i wasn't able to solve it normally. I got:
Ce^(x)=-bx
ln(Ce^(x))=ln(-bx)
ln(c)+ln(e^x) =ln(-b)+ln(x)
ln(c)+x=ln(-b)+ln(x)
x-ln(x)=ln(-b)- ln(c)
x-ln(x)=ln(-b/c)
take e^ of both sides

-c/b = x/e^x = xe^-x, so c/b = (-x)e^(-x), so -x = W(c/b),
x = -W(c/b)

where W is the lambert fuction where W is the inverse of f(z)=ze^z


thats all i got

edit: for more info Link2
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Frosty90
Fri Apr 03 2009, 05:52AM
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
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Thanks Mike, i didn't know about the lambert function. I see on the wikipedia article "the lambert function cannot be expressed in terms of elementry function", I'm not all that good with maths, but does this mean that the only way to evaluate it in general is by its tayor series or some other numerical method? this is what i originally meant with my question (i should have been a bit clearer). Thanks for the help.

edit: I see now on the wikiarticle about numerical evaluation. Thanks

Cheers, Jesse
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