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Tesladownunder
Fri Mar 20 2009, 05:21PM Print
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Anyone want to have a guess how I did this?


1237569664 10 FT0 Pantesladownundersparksonly
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KLH
Fri Mar 20 2009, 05:54PM
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Here are a few guesses:

1. PHOTOSHOP!!!

2. 1000 flyback arcs

3. Little nodes on a board with HV run through them spaced to form the arcs shown
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:09PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Judging from the angle of the sparks, it seems to be a kind of a rotating electrode/breakout point, but I'm not sure how exactly it's done.

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Tesladownunder
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:11PM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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I don't use photoshop on principle.
Not 1000 flybacks and nothing is rotating.

It is a cropped 175 second photographic exposure. I can change fonts as needed. That was bold 280 point Impact font.

Sparks are generated by my dual ignition coil setup driven by SIDACs and a MOT.

Any other ideas?
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Nik
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:39PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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The spark length and direction is constant so you are using some kind of guide and slowly tracing the letters with a fork-shaped stick. Where 1 prong is your HV and the other is the return.
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Tesladownunder
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:44PM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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Closer. But how could I see to trace something in darkness sufficient to not show up on a 3 minute exposure?

This is a demonstration of how it is easier to work out how something is done than to do it in the first place.
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big5824
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:51PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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you just cut out that shape in paper and moved the arc behind it?
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Myke
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:55PM
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Something that can move the arc gap in the x and y coordinates with steppers or servos I guess. You programmed a controller to move it in that way to make the letters. Maybe?

One think I am wondering is about is why the arc changes angle. Is it because the camera is on the left side of the display thing and the gap is vertical?
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Tesladownunder
Fri Mar 20 2009, 06:57PM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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Myke wrote ...

Something that can move the arc gap in the x and y coordinates with steppers or servos I guess. You programmed a controller to move it in that way to make the letters. Maybe?

One think I am wondering is about is why the arc changes angle. Is it because the camera is on the left side of the display thing and the gap is vertical?

A plotter is far too clever for me at my age although I did do one about 30 years ago for the Vic 20 computer. Article is here.

Good observation about the angle. Gap is horizontal.

The answer is simple as I was under some time pressure.



Not sure how cutouts would work and don't think you are seeing a cutout shape in silhouette here.

This was developed in response to a request for a logo in sparks by VICE TV. Will be filming it later today.

Other thoughts?
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Mattski
Fri Mar 20 2009, 07:13PM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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I'm going to guess...

You drilled a bunch of little holes in thick acrylic for each letter, put a ground plane beneath, and put chicken wire (or another grid) of HV on top and let it run.

Or, you cut each letter out of acrylic to use as a guide, pasted them on top of a ground plane, and moved a stick with HV around each one, turning off the HV between each letter.

wrote ...
Good observation about the angle. Gap is horizontal.
I need to read better, that pretty much throws out these guesses.

Next guess: you were in a different room with lighting, tracing out these letters with a stick that passed into the dark room with the camera.
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