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Ultra7
Sun Mar 01 2009, 10:50PM Print
Ultra7 Registered Member #1157 Joined: Thu Dec 06 2007, 12:11PM
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Here is my take on Steve's Mini.
I'm submitting it here for you guys to review and maybe spot any flaws I have or mistakes I've Made.

I also have a Board file that I am still working on, but I will post that in a bit.



SWMini


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MRacerxdl
Sun Mar 01 2009, 11:31PM
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As I know the pin 2 and 6 of the 555 must be wired together to work in that mode.
the center tap of the bridge are wired direct with the center tap of the caps (the primary coil is shorted), the led is in "reverse" position :P

The GDT is 1:1:1? If not, put back-to-back 15V zeners on the gates.
The GDT cap must be a little higher than 100nF, I have experienced a few problems with only 100nF, use three or four 100nF caps in parallel or a 470nF one.

Hmm, I hope I didnt forgot anything.
I dont like to correct other people schematic, but that is what you asking isnt it? :P

(Someone with higher experience correct me if I am wrong on something)
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Ultra7
Mon Mar 02 2009, 12:26AM
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Okay Fixed said faults, here is revision.
Also, yes GDT is 1:1:1

The major differences are the Primary current feedback and the selectable capacitors on pin 2. to pin one.


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teravolt
Mon Mar 02 2009, 01:33AM
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if you use a d-type flipflop you can enshure that your fets won't turn on at the wrong time. disconect the 555s pin 3 from the ucc37322,1 pin3 and connect it to the D input. Connect the junction that connects at the cd40106pin4 to the clock. And finaly reconnect boath pin 3's of the ucc's to the Q out put

what should happen is the the gating will be syncronised with input train
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Wolfram
Mon Mar 02 2009, 09:41AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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I have not seen anyone use turn-off synchronization in conventional SSTCs before.

Are you going to have the interrupter on the same board as the rest of the electronics? In that case, why not make it out of a gate from the 40106 instead of using a 555?

This is just an opinion, but I prefer running SSTCs from halfwave rectified mains, not interrupted, as they tend to allow a lot higher coupling without flashover, and therefore longer sparks from a given coil, in addition to the sparks looking more interesting and less of the screeching sound that interrupted SSTCs make.


Anders M.
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MRacerxdl
Mon Mar 02 2009, 09:43AM
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I never had any problems with unsyncronized interrupter on SSTC's, because even if the mosfets turn off on half of the cycle, the current doest get the peak rate of the mosfet, so I *think* it maybe not a problem. As I said, I never had any problems with that.
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Tom540
Mon Mar 02 2009, 05:53PM
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You could eliminate the zeners and shottkys on the secondary base input. Interrupted sstc's are only screechy if you run them at a high frequency with a low duty cycle. I use 10uF on my GDT primary.
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MRacerxdl
Mon Mar 02 2009, 09:59PM
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Yeah, biggest GDT cap as possible, I used 1uF for a fullbridge of IGBTs (that have higher gate capacitance than that IRFP260) and worked fine. So choose what you can find =D
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Myke
Tue Mar 03 2009, 02:38AM
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I would bias the input of the NOT gate with some resistors (pin one in your case). I have seen 10k used for bias resistors so I would think that they would be fine.
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Ultra7
Tue Mar 03 2009, 03:17AM
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Myke wrote ...

I would bias the input of the NOT gate with some resistors (pin one in your case). I have seen 10k used for bias resistors so I would think that they would be fine.

Why would I need to bias the input?
There is already a resistor on the input of the not gate.
Does it need to sink that much current?
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