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Hungry for more power - sstc

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Kizmo
Sat Feb 21 2009, 06:42PM Print
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
Location: Northern Finland, Rovaniemi
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Hi!

I made some time ago Steves MiniSSTC and got it working fairly well after few mosfet explosions. Current spark/streamer lenght is somewhere around 35cm (13.8")


1235241575 599 FT0 470vdc Cw


1235241602 599 FT0 Sparks2


More pictures can be found here:
Link2

And short video here:
Link2

As always, i want more power. Currently this coil is running around 2kW hard to tell exact power thanks to half wave voltage doubler.
I have cranked this up to limits of mosfets (500VDC). Im using 7 primary turns and as tight as possible coupling (tried to rise primary for about 10mm and got flashover -> halfbridge died)

So.. what next? Im thinking about full bridge and real toroid from aluminum ducting. Secondary is pretty small, 110mm in diameter and about 300mm winding height and i have been thinkig about new, maybe 200mm diameter secondary?

Any thoughts on this?
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Tonic
Sat Feb 21 2009, 08:36PM
Tonic Registered Member #528 Joined: Fri Feb 16 2007, 10:32PM
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 166
Wow, that's great SSTC!

How did you make a voltage doubler? I mean, what components?

What wire have you used for secondary?

You can build full bridge. Give separate radiators so you can push more current.
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Kizmo
Sun Feb 22 2009, 02:56PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
Location: Northern Finland, Rovaniemi
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Thanks! :)

Voltage doubler is made from 30amp block diodes and 220µF 450V capacitors. Like this: Link2

Secondary is wound on 110mm grey PVC pipe with 0.315mm wire. Winding lenght is about 320mm and it resonates with this setup around 300kHz.


Im planning to make new secondary to lower the resonant frequency. Same 0.315mm wire but wound on 370mm x 200mm former. With large topload it should resonate @ 100kHz
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MRacerxdl
Sun Feb 22 2009, 03:00PM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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Try to make a fullwave doubler, in teory it doesnt make any difference, but I noticed a few changes when using fullwave doubler. Lower Fres gets more sparks/power too, as decrease the primary turns too.
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Kizmo
Sun Feb 22 2009, 03:32PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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I think i dont need voltage doubler with full bridge :)
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Feb 22 2009, 04:12PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Kizmo wrote ...

I think i dont need voltage doubler with full bridge :)
Wouldnt it be easier on the FETs?

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uzzors2k
Sun Feb 22 2009, 07:23PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
Location: Norway
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Nice SSTC, and great output! You need to keep the doubler if you're going to upgrade to a full-bridge, otherwise the voltage over the primary is the same (assuming both double the voltage) and you gain nothing. I did a SSTC tune-up as well, and the improved coil is much better than the old one, so lower fres and using a full-bridge are the way to go! Link2
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Wolfram
Sun Feb 22 2009, 09:41PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
Location: Norway
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Are you aiming for more power, longer sparks or both?

I see you are running from a doubler, this gives you DC with a lot of ripple on the DC bus. Try changing over to halfwave rectified mains for less power draw with the same lengt or often longer sparks. The lower power means less stress on the FETs, which means you can lower the number of primary turns to bring the power back up and get even longer sparks. Although the power level is similar to before, the peak current will be quite a bit higher. Losing the voltage doubler means the primary voltage will be lower, but with 250V AC from a variac there will be 350V peak on the DC bus, which gives you a nice safety margin. I can also second the recommendation of changing over to full bridge, this should improve the sparklength quite a bit.


Anders M.
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Kizmo
Mon Feb 23 2009, 07:19PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
Location: Northern Finland, Rovaniemi
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Anders M. wrote ...

Are you aiming for more power, longer sparks or both?

I see you are running from a doubler, this gives you DC with a lot of ripple on the DC bus. Try changing over to halfwave rectified mains for less power draw with the same lengt or often longer sparks. The lower power means less stress on the FETs, which means you can lower the number of primary turns to bring the power back up and get even longer sparks. Although the power level is similar to before, the peak current will be quite a bit higher. Losing the voltage doubler means the primary voltage will be lower, but with 250V AC from a variac there will be 350V peak on the DC bus, which gives you a nice safety margin. I can also second the recommendation of changing over to full bridge, this should improve the sparklength quite a bit.


Anders M.
Im aiming for both: long and powerful sparks

New secondary is done:
1235416723 599 FT64298 Newsecondary
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