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Looking for a new PSU for my CG

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BlakFyre
Sun Feb 08 2009, 12:27AM Print
BlakFyre Registered Member #1563 Joined: Wed Jun 25 2008, 03:55AM
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Here it goes. I have a cap bank of two 400v 2200uf caps that are at the moment in series. I have been using a flyback for charging, but anything after 200v is painfully slow so I need a bit more amperage. Keeping in mind that I'm broke, whats my best option for a PSU capable of 800-100 volts with a respectable current output. I've been told a CW would work well, but with 120v mains and whatnot it doesn't seem like the caps would be ... affordable given my budget.
Rewound transformer? Not to comfortable around mains nor am I up on the behavior of transformers...
Maybe someone can point me in the "friendliest" direction, if they would be so kind.
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rp181
Sun Feb 08 2009, 12:58AM
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a multiplier is really cheap. You do not need big capacitor's, ones around a photoflash value's will work fine.
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BlakFyre
Sun Feb 08 2009, 01:03AM
BlakFyre Registered Member #1563 Joined: Wed Jun 25 2008, 03:55AM
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But those are polar, I though in a CW you need bi-polar caps.
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Camel
Sun Feb 08 2009, 04:43AM
Camel Registered Member #1694 Joined: Sat Sept 13 2008, 09:13AM
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Nope.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Feb 08 2009, 09:05AM
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If you want the multiplier to limit your current, then AFAIK at least the first cap must be bi-polar.
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Tribologist
Thu Feb 12 2009, 02:53AM
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Microwave owen transformer?
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Arcstarter
Thu Feb 12 2009, 04:03AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Tribologist wrote ...

Microwave owen transformer?
Yes, i used a microwave transformer for my two 400v 3900uf capacitors that where at the moment in series. I used about 80 volts input from a power transformer, so the current was limited so it would not charge so fast i couldn't stop it in time.
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BlakFyre
Tue Feb 17 2009, 02:59AM
BlakFyre Registered Member #1563 Joined: Wed Jun 25 2008, 03:55AM
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That's odd, cause I used photoflash caps, 5 stages I think, and only got ~350 volts. I thought I killed the later stages because they were reverse conducting... Also, I have seen very few schematics for CW's using polar caps.
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rp181
Tue Feb 17 2009, 04:01AM
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They do use polar caps, that is the whole theory behind it. Those are just general layout's, not actual schematics. If you only get 350volts, that means that everything past the second stage is not working properly. Check capacitor's and diodes. Keep in mind these have a huge current inrush. When i fire up a tripler, the lights in the room dim for about a second. Diodes actually have to be pretty beefy, so check those first. I have had TO-220 diodes burn.
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BlakFyre
Sat Feb 21 2009, 07:16AM
BlakFyre Registered Member #1563 Joined: Wed Jun 25 2008, 03:55AM
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I was told that standard 1N4007s would do just fine because its running at 60hz... also, I simulated it and it doesn't seem to reverse conduct, So it seems 'lytics should work just fine, just have to see where I went wrong and hope it didn't kill everything.
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