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Tesladownunder
Tue Jan 27 2009, 04:11PM Print
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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Tesla's coil or Tesla coil? Food for semantic thought. Have we all been calling it by the wrong name?
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Chris Russell
Tue Jan 27 2009, 04:42PM
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It is interesting, but I think "Tesla coil" is just fine. It is a common convention to not just show possessiveness, but actually name a device after its inventor. Other examples like Faraday cage, Marx generator, Minkowski spacetime, or the Rogowski coil come to mind.
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Finn Hammer
Tue Jan 27 2009, 04:43PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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Wimshurst's machine
Greinacher's Cascades
Cockroft-Walton's multiplier
Van De Graaff his generator?

I must be missing something...

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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rp181
Tue Jan 27 2009, 04:56PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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I think the 's shows ownership. My opinion is that it depends on its popularity. When only one person does it. its 's. When its popular, its named after the person, so no 's. ts like stars.
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Plasma Lover
Tue Jan 27 2009, 05:37PM
Plasma Lover Registered Member #1911 Joined: Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:30PM
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'Tesla's coil', from what I've read, s simply the air-core transformer, whereas the Tesla coil includes the resonance in the transformer and primary circuit and the capacitors and the step-up transformer. I may be wrong, but this is just what I've read.
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Marko
Tue Jan 27 2009, 06:10PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Tesladownunder wrote ...

Tesla's coil or Tesla coil? Food for semantic thought. Have we all been calling it by the wrong name?
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As said, 's would denote ownership by a certain individual (so it could even be 'Tesla's Tesla coil'!).

But ''Peter Terren's Tesla's coil'' doesn't look even grammatically right to me...

Marko
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Proud Mary
Tue Jan 27 2009, 07:46PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I would guess that in Victorian useage it was often referred to as Mr Tesla's Coil - and the name we have now is a modern contraction and de-personalization of this.

The 'apostophe s' is itself a contraction of 'his' - connoting ownership - as we see on 17th century maps, for example - where the words of ownership are still written out in full, e.g. Prince Edward's Island is written out in full as Prince Edward His Island.

Thus, in a sense, the change from Tesla's Coil to Tesla Coil reflects a change from personal to collective ownership of the invention.

How's that for your semantics, TDU? cheesey

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