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Coherent
Wed Jan 28 2009, 05:11PM
Coherent Registered Member #1886 Joined: Sun Dec 28 2008, 02:55AM
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Well if you need that huge heatsink/fan for the transistor then something probably is wrong. It shouldn't heat up that much under normal conditions.
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DerSchwamm
Wed Jan 28 2009, 06:14PM
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Could you describe your power supply? (the 35v one)

Also, 400 ohms seems a bit low for a flyback HT winding, any clue what your flyback was originally out of?
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Jan 28 2009, 06:49PM
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DerSchwamm wrote ...

Also, 400 ohms seems a bit low for a flyback HT winding, any clue what your flyback was originally out of?
It seems perfectly fine to me, the transformers I have range from 90 to 700 ohms.
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Franky
Wed Jan 28 2009, 06:49PM
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The power supply is an old marklin transformer.
30VA max 1.5 amp. AC
I have no clue what the original resistance was.

Edit:
This power supply
Link2
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DerSchwamm
Wed Jan 28 2009, 06:59PM
DerSchwamm Registered Member #1936 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 11:34AM
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I'm assuming you're full-wave rectifying and filtering the output of the 35v transformer, correct? If not the extra zero-crossings(well, it shouldn't *cross* zero but you know what I mean.) are probably what is heating your mosfet to hell and back. Meaning instead of jumping from an infinite Source-Drain resistance to near zero and staying there, it constantly has to jump back and forth, so it dissipates more power.
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Franky
Wed Jan 28 2009, 07:08PM
Franky Registered Member #1940 Joined: Tue Jan 27 2009, 02:34PM
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Singel phase rectifier with a 4700 uF cap

There where no 50 Hz sounds in the sound of the plasma speaker.
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DerSchwamm
Thu Jan 29 2009, 07:55AM
DerSchwamm Registered Member #1936 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 11:34AM
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Franky wrote ...

The power supply is an old marklin transformer.
30VA max 1.5 amp. AC
I have no clue what the original resistance was.

Edit:
This power supply
Link2


Oh dear. Sounds like you and Killa-X have the same issue. He was blowing up 555s till he rectified it. see this post for more info. Link2

Those extra zero crossings are what's heating up your fet. The Source-Drain voltage is varying, and so is the resistance.

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Baaaad!


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GOOOOD. Avast ye, nublets! img width=400 is gooood too

Put a bridge rectifier and filter cap on the AC output of your transformer and things should be happier in the thermal department. Alternatively pop it open and replace the internal single diode with a bridge rectifier and have a real DC out. Those "toy" (or is it Model?) train transformers only have a "dc" output so that the motors go in a predetermined direction. Its just one way current, its not filtered or full wave.

Talk to Killa-X, he seems to have been through this and come out for the better.
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jan 29 2009, 08:14AM
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Also, loading a transformer down with just single diode will result in significantly lower available power output without overheating the transformer, as this causes DC current to flow through the secondary winding, induce DC flux in the core and the current draw on the primary will go up dramatically.

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Franky
Thu Jan 29 2009, 10:29AM
Franky Registered Member #1940 Joined: Tue Jan 27 2009, 02:34PM
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Now I’m a bit confused. I think I got the wrong data sheet. I think it is a bridge rectifier.
This is the rectifier I’m using
Link2

I have done a little test with it. These are the results.
Link2

I think it is a bridge rectifier!

This is the schematic I'm using (if my rectifier is indeed a bridge rectifier). This time it is complete with everything.
Link2

Some modifications:
IRFP250 = IRF250
R2 = variable resistance

Data power supply
Marklin power supply
30VA max 1.5 amp. AC

555 supply
15V 12VA DC

Here is a movie of this circuit before the flyback died
Link2

So, is there a problem with the circuit or still something with the rectifier?
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