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Lego Colorimeter

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G^3
Tue Jan 13 2009, 06:55PM Print
G^3 Registered Member #97 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:40PM
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I built a colorimeter out of some legos, an LED, and a CDS cell. It is crude, but it works. I have an red led for a light source and a CDS cell for a sensor. From what I understand the CDS responds linearly with respect to the intensity of light.


1231872047 97 FT1630 Img 0299b

I added the paper shims to keep the cuvette straight. During operation I covered the colorimeter with a black T-shirt to keep out any light and I used a multimeter to measure the resistance of CDS. Below is a Beer's law plot for blue food coloring. The concentration is in drops/cup of water.

1231872047 97 FT1630 Colorimeterplot

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Bored Chemist
Tue Jan 13 2009, 07:02PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Neat!
With a selection of LEDs of different colours you could get a rough spectrum of the dye if you plotted the slope of the line versus wavelength.
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aonomus
Tue Jan 13 2009, 08:08PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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You should completely seal off the top of the cell, and as well, you should (if you haven't already) run a blank with just the solvent, in this case water. You should definitely try and get a fine beam of light as LED's scatter light, and as you know Beers law incorporates path length, scattering light would muck up the calculations. Perhaps put the LED at the end of a long tube with black paint on the inside to absorb any light that isn't mostly headed straight forward, and similarly for the CdS cell.

Without wide spectrum light sources and monochromators, this isn't going to be the best useful tool, however it would be useful if a known RGB LED (ie: one on digikey, mouser, etc that has quality control) that can have its spectra run for each of the R, G, B elements, you could build a crude spectrophotometer.

A RGB LED spectrophotometer could always be useful, if you need to find the concentration of something you could always use a known concentration as a reference point, however one problem is that the extrapolated E value cannot be compared with literature values, as a LED spectrophotometer would not be monochromatic.

Also keep in mind that you would have to run blanks with everything, but this could be a practical tool...

Ex: You wanted to find the concentration of Cu2+ in your etchant when it is fully oxidized: start with excess HCl w/ known volume, add in a known amount of copper, wait for complete dissolution, then use that to calibrate and find the E value. Unfortunately having thought about it, Cu1+ also affects the colour, so it would be tricky to determine how saturated the solution was, but it could have its uses....
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Bored Chemist
Wed Jan 14 2009, 06:34PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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I think a black T shirt probably seals off the light well enough (and the data tends to support that), The first thing I'd chance is the bits of paper; if you paint them black you will get rid of a lot of "stray"
light. It would also be interesting to see how it fairs with 1 drop in 2 cups of water and 1 drop in 3 cups etc.
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