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wicked alex
Tue Jan 06 2009, 04:25PM Print
wicked alex Registered Member #1786 Joined: Tue Oct 28 2008, 03:23PM
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Hello dos some one know how they get this ion generator so smal? Link2 Hase some one opend op one?or dose some one have a circuit?
Alex
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cduma
Tue Jan 06 2009, 04:49PM
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Do some research on DC-DC converters. They are very complicated but, have a very small parts count excluding the oscillator. All it need is an inductor, diode, capacitor, switching transistor(i usually use a 2n2222 for low v) and an oscillator.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Jan 06 2009, 05:21PM
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It may be just a CW cascade, or a little inverter driving a cascade (which can use considerably smaller caps).
Or it is just a little driver and a small HV transformer (such as those used in photocopiers).


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big5824
Tue Jan 06 2009, 05:57PM
big5824 Registered Member #1687 Joined: Tue Sept 09 2008, 08:47PM
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could be one of those piezoelectric transformers someone was talking about a few days ago, not sure how they work though
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wicked alex
Tue Jan 06 2009, 09:33PM
wicked alex Registered Member #1786 Joined: Tue Oct 28 2008, 03:23PM
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big5824 wrote ...

could be one of those piezoelectric transformers someone was talking about a few days ago, not sure how they work though
How dos a piezoelectric transformer work?
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teslacoolguy
Tue Jan 06 2009, 09:38PM
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once again, google is your friend Link2 found that within 15 seconds if searching.
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Estragon
Thu Jan 08 2009, 07:00AM
Estragon Registered Member #1391 Joined: Fri Mar 14 2008, 04:49PM
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I took a thing very simmilar to that out from an air freshner.
I was small, (2x2x4 cm).

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When connected to an 9v battery, it makes a nice "pikashoe", I connected the negative terminal to me, and the positive to alluminium foil under my shoes. Then if it is on I will collect a static charge and can shock people who are sitting or not using shoes. (Or everyone at a good day, with low humidity)

Not like I go around shoking people, but the device is fun. I have a switch inside my shoe so I can turn it on and off without anyone noticing. It can also be used to "bend water" and levitate small pices of paper.
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DrZoidberg
Thu Jan 08 2009, 09:01PM
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Estragon wrote ...

When connected to an 9v battery, it makes a nice "pikashoe", I connected the negative terminal to me, and the positive to alluminium foil under my shoes. Then if it is on I will collect a static charge and can shock people who are sitting or not using shoes. (Or everyone at a good day, with low humidity)

Interesting. I guess that only works with plastic soles.
But doesn't it look strange when a wire is hanging out of your shoe?
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Arcstarter
Thu Jan 08 2009, 10:29PM
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Lol, OT again, but they use the same thing in rockband drums. You do not want a switch because they have too much mass. So, piezoeletric pads is what they use, because it takes very little voltage to trigger the game, therefor there is little movement required.

Sorry if that was unclear, i typed half then stopped then started again :P.
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Estragon
Fri Jan 09 2009, 02:59PM
Estragon Registered Member #1391 Joined: Fri Mar 14 2008, 04:49PM
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DrZoidberg wrote ...

Interesting. I guess that only works with plastic soles.
But doesn't it look strange when a wire is hanging out of your shoe?

Hehe, It is a normal leather shoe, (with rubber soles). All the wireing is concealed within the shoe/stipped to my legg under my jeans
The only drawback is the swich under my toe is making walking slightly uncomforable.
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