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Saz43
Mon Dec 15 2008, 04:11AM Print
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I am going to use an inverter to feed a voltage triple to charge the caps in my coilgun. Here is the circuit:

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The inverter will be putting out about 115VAC at 1.4A. Obviously, the diodes will have to be able to take 115V/1.4A, and the caps need to be rated at at least 115V, but my question is this: how do you chose the capacitance of the capacitors? I cannot seem to find this information anywhere. I appreciate any help.

Saz
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Camel
Mon Dec 15 2008, 04:40AM
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If you are using it to charge caps, the capacitance doesn't really matter much. I'd probably go for around 1uF.
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Myke
Mon Dec 15 2008, 04:44AM
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You also need a resistor in series with the output to limit the current and also to help protect your diodes.
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Saz43
Mon Dec 15 2008, 05:04AM
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The diodes I have can handle 2A, and the most the inverter will put out is 1.4A. Do I still need a resistor?
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Camel
Mon Dec 15 2008, 06:42AM
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Yes, when you discharge your capacitor bank the caps in the multiplier will discharge too, through your diodes.
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Saz43
Mon Dec 15 2008, 06:48AM
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How do I choose such a resistor?
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Camel
Mon Dec 15 2008, 07:23AM
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For maximum charge time, you'll want a fairly low value resistor. However during discharge it'll have a lot of current going through it. You could do the maths yourself using V = IR and P=IV
Another option would be to disconnect your voltage multiplier before you fire your gun.
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Saz43
Mon Dec 15 2008, 08:16AM
Saz43 Registered Member #1525 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:16AM
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I think I see what you are saying. When the voltage in my bank goes to zero, the charged caps in the multiplier are going to discharge into the empty cap bank (right?)

So then the resistor just has to keep the resulting current below 30A or so (the pulse rating for the diodes).
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Camel
Mon Dec 15 2008, 08:23AM
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The doubler caps will discharge at the same rate as the caps in your cap bank, but yeah that's what the resistor is for.
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Myke
Mon Dec 15 2008, 02:28PM
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I think that with more loading, the voltage of the output drops but as the load impedance increases, the voltage would increase. I think in addition to the output resistor, you need a resistor on the primary side. This isn't always needed if you have a small load on the output and the caps in the multiplier are fairly small.
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