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Jamil merali
Wed Dec 03 2008, 01:30AM Print
Jamil merali Registered Member #1577 Joined: Sun Jul 06 2008, 05:16PM
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would this driver work
Link2
properly with a fly back. If not is there any other simple driver.Thanks
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rp181
Wed Dec 03 2008, 01:39AM
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This is the most simple driver, but power will be limited. You can try a 555 driver which is a bit better, and a ZVS driver, which are very powerfull.
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Jamil merali
Wed Dec 03 2008, 01:44AM
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links?
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Myke
Wed Dec 03 2008, 01:46AM
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There is another simple driver called the Mazzilli flyback driver. There are some advantages and disadvantages with staying with the 2N3055 driver though. The 2N3055 driver requires less parts and also is less dangerous so if you got shocked by the high voltage output, it wouldn't hurt you as badly. The Mazzilli driver is a lot more efficient, can have more power pushed through a flyback, and is still pretty simple.

Here is the Mazzilli flyback driver (aka the ZVS flyback driver) Link2
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Jamil merali
Wed Dec 03 2008, 02:00AM
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well I'm going to make a tea laser with it and use it in my science fair so mine first one will do fine but then when i get another fly back for my own uses hehe
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Jamil merali
Thu Dec 04 2008, 10:02PM
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I got a neon transformer it says out put 3.5kv.It has no plug the input side.How do i tell the polarity..THis will be the first time messing around with the mains
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Myke
Fri Dec 05 2008, 12:28AM
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Is your NST a new type or an old type? If it is a new type, I don't think it likes having the output see a load like an arc. If it's the older type, they are usually heavier and also they are usually just a transformer potted in some material.

There is a primary side and a secondary side to a transformer. Since it's line voltage, there is no polarity. The secondary side is the side with the insulators and the primary side is the side with either smaller ones or none at all.

Test the NST by connecting the primary terminals to the line and see if you can start an arc across the secondary. You would want to use an insulated stick called a chicken stick to decrease the chances of you getting shocked by the output.
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LithiumLord
Fri Dec 05 2008, 12:55AM
LithiumLord Registered Member #1739 Joined: Fri Oct 03 2008, 10:05AM
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Myke wrote ...
If it is a new type, I don't think it likes having the output see a load like an arc.
In fact it likes, or at least has no choice - in the default operation it's also a ballast aimed to handle a high-intensity glow discharge in the tube. The resistance of such a discharge is not much higher then the one of an air arc if "let loose", so the ballasting functionality should allow any NST to work normally under an arc load.
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Jamil merali
Fri Dec 05 2008, 02:01AM
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well thanks to your help it works. I'm just using some rubber handle pliers as a "chicken stick".Anything better i could use. Plus I'm only 11 so i want to stay healthy.
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teslacoolguy
Fri Dec 05 2008, 03:37AM
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Yes, there is better things to use ^_^ at 10kv the voltage can arc right through the rubber pliers. Get some 1/2 pvc pipe and cut about 12" of it and drill 2 holes at the end and run a copper electrode out of it and connect the flyback ground pin to it as there is less potential at that end.
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