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Arcstarter
Tue Dec 02 2008, 08:27PM Print
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Well, since i am making my own arsg, i figured it would be cool to share our rsg projects and ideas. I have not yet finished either of mine(one for small coil, one for larger), but once i do i will post some pics.
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teslacoolguy
Tue Dec 02 2008, 10:58PM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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1228258486 1107 FT58549 Rsg Done

1228258636 1107 FT58549 Disk

1/2" tufnol
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rp181
Tue Dec 02 2008, 11:27PM
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Whats the need for such big motors, whats wrong with small ones?
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Arcstarter
Tue Dec 02 2008, 11:46PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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rp181 wrote ...

Whats the need for such big motors, whats wrong with small ones?
Well, i am using a small one, it is only 2 watts :P But of course i am running it on 12 volts instead of 3. cheesey cheesey cheesey

I finished my small one up an it worked great, until the wood decided to become conductive, so now it is a shorted rsg. Need to find some thick plastic man!
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teslacoolguy
Wed Dec 03 2008, 01:29AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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rp181 wrote ...

Whats the need for such big motors, whats wrong with small ones?
Because big motors are pimp cheesey
The other reason i used it is because i might modify it for step up belt drive so i wanted it to be powerful.
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IamSmooth
Wed Dec 03 2008, 04:26AM
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Use lexan. It has a high temperature tolerance and very strong. Non-conductive with high dielectric.
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Anon01
Wed Dec 03 2008, 04:30AM
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*Cough.* I agree with rp181. I'm doing a 14" 1800RPM SRSG with 1/25HP. It is running at synch, but this is ASRSG, but it all can work. Point is, if you have low enough air drag.

Link2

Propeller type, but it works, no reason why it wouldn't. 3/16" brass and tungsten on the prop. 1/8" tungsten on stationary.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sat Dec 06 2008, 08:39AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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Here's mine, using a little sewing machine motor, gets hot but it works pretty good.
Link2

The real trouble is it has no optical tracking and the inertia of the gap is a lot for this little motor so regulation is not really possible. This would need a PID controller to maintain speed properly.
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Robert2
Sat Dec 06 2008, 09:37AM
Robert2 Registered Member #1773 Joined: Tue Oct 21 2008, 06:56PM
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Can i use plexiglass for Disk in RSG ? I have 1,1 KW motor from Vacuum cleaner. My plexi is 5mm.
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Steve Conner
Sat Dec 06 2008, 10:48AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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The official line is: Don't use plexiglass, lexan, a chopping board, the lid of a laundry basket, whatever, for your rotor. They might seem strong enough at room temperature, but they're thermoplastics (google it) and spark gap electrodes, believe it or not, get extremely hot.

Tufnol and G-10 are thermosetting: they don't soften with heat. They're also very expensive, but having tungsten rods removed from your forehead is pretty costly too.
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