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Dragon64
Sun Nov 30 2008, 05:32PM Print
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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Well, I need a very cold condition to condense a liquid in my distilation apparatus.

In order to achive this, I have to find a way to lower the temperature dramatically while using common household items. I have thought of using dry ice with acetone but didn't have any dry ice. I also thought of using ammonium nitrate in water but was not practical for many design reasons.

Is there another way to make a very cold object using household material?

PS. Gramham condenser would not work.
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Sun Nov 30 2008, 05:51PM
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How cold?


Can't you just put the assembly in a freezer? Or if you are really feeling adventurous you could pull the cooling coil out of a bar refrigerator and build a smaller coldbox for it to cool your apparatus.
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Backyard Skunkworks
Sun Nov 30 2008, 06:07PM
Backyard Skunkworks Registered Member #1262 Joined: Fri Jan 25 2008, 05:22AM
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Magnesium Dichloride is a common ice melting salt, I've seen a huge bag (50lbs?) at costco for something like $17. It will give you a solution down to -25F/-32C/241K when melting ice.
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rp181
Sun Nov 30 2008, 08:38PM
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how about a couple TEC's?
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Dragon64
Sun Nov 30 2008, 10:56PM
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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Yes, I had thought of using the refridgerator coil as a condenser but I don't any. Same with using the TEC. For now, I will use the salt and ice method.

I need cooling to about -50ºC
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