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IamSmooth
Sat Nov 29 2008, 03:23AM Print
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I have an aluminum grill-type heatsink that is single-sided. It is about 1/8" thick x 6"long x 4.5"wide x 0.75" tall. I got a few from a surplus store years ago, but I don't have any thermal conductivity numbers to determine if it is adequate to sink enough heat. Does anyone have a guess to the C/W value a sink like this could have? I want to dissipate the heat from a FET. I figure it will have up to 400W and I need to keep the temperature under 100C. This is a value of 0.25 C/W that I need. I will also blow air over it which should help lower the value further.
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El_Roberto
Sat Nov 29 2008, 03:38AM
El_Roberto Registered Member #1774 Joined: Wed Oct 22 2008, 02:51AM
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Im not certain but I dont think that will quite be enough, maybe you could put a fan on it to help. I think it should be fairly close though.
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Turkey9
Sat Nov 29 2008, 05:18AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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There is a way that you can measure the thermal resistance your self but it'll take a little work. Here's the link: Link2

That site also has some good information on cooling heatsinks with fans and how it increases the power handling.
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Sulaiman
Sat Nov 29 2008, 12:50PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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When I get an unknown heatsink I look for a similar one in online catalogs,
400W is a lot of heat and you will almost certainly need a fan/blower etc.

I would try to keep the heatsink well below 100 C
because 100 + (400 x Thermal Resistance) will make the junction temperature very high,
although the spec. sheet may say up to 175 C (or whatever) the life will be quite short at max. junction temperature.

I've forgotten the de-rating factors but I think that for MOS devices halve the life for every 20 C. (around 10 C for bipolars)
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Nov 29 2008, 01:00PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Is it a single device, what is the package/packages? 400W from one or even two devices seems quite unrealistic.
Another thing is if you'll be using the FETs in the linear range at high voltages, something known as secondary breakdown can increase the junction-to-case thermal resistance, so you'll be able to push less power.


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IamSmooth
Sat Nov 29 2008, 03:16PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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It is hard to say exactly how much will go through. I am considering a worst case situation. More likely 0-200w will flow through each of 5 devices (total 1000W). This is part of a shunt to protect an inverter from a variable generator source.
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Proud Mary
Sat Nov 29 2008, 04:48PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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A 0.25 C/W (natural air convection for 80 C rise) aluminium flat back heat sink from Conrad Engineering (part MF30-151.5) measures ~12" x 6" x 2" and weighs 2.2kg.
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GeordieBoy
Sat Nov 29 2008, 08:24PM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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200W is a lot of dissipation for a single semiconductor device. If you dig out a datasheet and do the thermal calcs you will quickly see why. I think you would do better changing your design to shift most of the dissipation away from the silicon and into a bank of metal clad resistors (or high power halogen lamps.)

-Richie,
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IamSmooth
Sun Nov 30 2008, 03:57AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Maybe I should ask this:

If I have 2A flowing through a 25ohm load going through the source lead, and I have a 5 ohm resistor from drain to ground, is there a way to calculate the voltage drop from Source to Drain; or, is this a value I have to actually measure (voltage drop over load - voltage drop over drain resistor)?
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Steve Conner
Sun Nov 30 2008, 02:16PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I don't even understand the question.

(BTW, have you ever thought of collecting your million and one threads into a single "My alternative power project" thread?)
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