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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Nov 12 2008, 07:46PM Print
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I need a glue which is good up to 150°C. Do you think superglue is good? Or would you recommend something else?

Because I dont feel like starting 2 threads, here is another question, I have a "hardpaper" transformer bobbin, what should I paint/impregnate it with to make it resistant to moisture?


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Marko
Wed Nov 12 2008, 07:59PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi,

If you need quick and reliable setting, check for epoxy glue. I think most of them should stand 150C today.
I wouldn't use superglue for that kind of temperature.

If you need large amounts at affordable cost, check for polyester boat resin. It requires much more time to set, produces a lot of heat if setting fast any may be troublesome... but here it is like 10 times cheaper than epoxy. By requirement, it can be thinned with styrene.

I use the same stuff to impregnate cardboard as well. I think it's better than the industrial transformer varnish, which is solvent based any may not dry well in deep gaps.


Marko
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Camel
Thu Nov 13 2008, 08:01AM
Camel Registered Member #1694 Joined: Sat Sept 13 2008, 09:13AM
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Super glue shouldn't be used above 120C. Araldite/epoxy glue also weakens when it gets hot, but its gotta be better than super glue.
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rp181
Thu Nov 13 2008, 01:22PM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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Enamel might be good, or even just some electrical tape.

What is the glue used for? Whats the material?
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Nov 13 2008, 02:53PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I found a 1kg box of the boat epoxy in the shed so I tried it... it cures in 24 hours so I'll see tongue

Electrical tape?? I'm pretty sure the tape itself melts at lower temperatures... It is for gluing some plastic insulating sheet (dunno the material but it was used as a heat transfer medium for FETs) to a mot.



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Finn Hammer
Thu Nov 13 2008, 04:02PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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RTV Silicone is normally good up to 260 deg. C

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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ConKbot of Doom
Sat Nov 15 2008, 08:10PM
ConKbot of Doom Registered Member #509 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 07:02AM
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JB weld is good for a decently high temperature, (I wanna say 600F, but not sure) and you can thin it with acetone. Not how sure how much you can thin it however.
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Arcstarter
Sat Nov 15 2008, 09:18PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I also heard that JB weld is good. I heard of a guy that apparently glued up an engines crankcase with it, but i am not sure how much i believe that. Also, i know that people have used it to glue pvc pipes on engines for use as a ghetto muffler.
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Proud Mary
Sat Nov 15 2008, 09:18PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Permatex® - Black Silicone Adhesive Sealant
General purpose, black RTV indoor/outdoor sealant. Seals, bonds, repairs, mends and secures glass, metal, plastics, fabric, vinyl, weather stripping and vinyl tops. Maybe applied to horizontal or vertical surfaces. Waterproof and flexible. Temperature range: -80°F to 450°F (-62°C to 232°C); resists oil, water, weather, vibration, grease. Non-paintable. Suggested applications: Use where resistance to extreme thermal cycling, ozone and UV light is required.

I also found this data on Bostik's 9732 RTV silicone sealant, which may be of interest to you:

Volume Resistivity: ohm-cm 1.5X1015
Dielectric Strength: volts/mil 550*
Dielectric Constant: @ 100 Hz 2.8 @ 100 kHz 2.8
Dissipation Factor: @ 100 Hz 0.0015 @ 100 kHz 0.0015

*This American notation works out at 21.7kV/mm
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Doubl3 Helix
Sat Nov 15 2008, 10:02PM
Doubl3 Helix Registered Member #1548 Joined: Mon Jun 16 2008, 09:22PM
Location: Ohio
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I know a guy that had a hole in the crank case of his Quadracer 250 from when the chain broke off. He sealed the hole with a little JB Weld, and it's still perfectly fine...
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