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iRET
Mon Nov 10 2008, 02:30AM Print
iRET Registered Member #258 Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 03:58PM
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Hi everyone,

I have a newbie question regarding Mosfet driver TC4422. Currently using 555 PWM setup to feed signals to TC4422 which drives a IRFP460. I noticed the waveform for the shutdown portion did not completely went down to 0V, but instead hovers around 2.47V. If I connect the Mosfet Gate directly to the output of 555 (pin 3) the off is at 0V. What's wrong ?


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Dylan
Mon Nov 10 2008, 11:15PM
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Mmm, nope thats not right.
Do you have another TC4422 you can substitute to see if its the actual chip thats fried?
Can you post a pic / schematic of your circuit?
My guess is either your TC4422 is fried, or for some reason the ground at the driver out is floating above the ground you are measuring from.
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iRET
Mon Nov 17 2008, 02:19AM
iRET Registered Member #258 Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 03:58PM
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Hi Dylan,

Thanks for the feedback. I did tried a different TC4422 but still getting the same waveform. I included the current schematic for my 555 driver, the waveform shown on the schematic is taken at those two blue points. As you can see the turn off did not fully shut down to 0v.


1226888204 258 FT57100 Tc4422 And 555 Driver
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Dylan
Mon Nov 17 2008, 04:43AM
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Remove the 100 Ohm resistor , and simply connect the gnd pins of the driver directly to ground.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Nov 17 2008, 09:32AM
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Dylan wrote ...

Remove the 100 Ohm resistor , and simply connect the gnd pins of the driver directly to ground.
+1


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Experimentonomen
Mon Nov 17 2008, 11:55AM
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The 100ohm resistor is supposed to go between the TC4422 and the fet gate, not between driver and fet ground.
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Arcstarter
Mon Nov 17 2008, 02:37PM
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Dylan wrote ...

Remove the 100 Ohm resistor , and simply connect the gnd pins of the driver directly to ground.
Yep, i have to second(or actually third) this. I guess at higher frequency, resistance becomes more noticeable, for instance, in a sstc you want small wires for low inductance and resistance and good connections for very low resistance. Makes sense to me.
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Myke
Tue Nov 18 2008, 02:00AM
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I would think that you would need short wires to minimize stray inductance. Also, you would need good connections at the place where high current is flowing because if there is a poor connection, the will be a lot of power dissipated at that connection.
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iRET
Mon Dec 01 2008, 01:02AM
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ITWORKS NOW! amazed Thanks a lot guys especially Dylan

The rise and fall waveform generated by TC4422 seems to be taking a longer period (sloped) compared with pulses from a 555. Why is it a better mosfet driver ?
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MRacerxdl
Fri Dec 05 2008, 12:40PM
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As the frequency increases, the current at gate increases too (think about the gate-source as a capacitor, and the driver charging and discharging it, as high frequency, more current flows) after some frequency the 555 cannot supply more current, and it doesnt "discharge" the mosfet gate complete, or charge it. So the mosfet only will be half turned on, the RDS on increases, the heat dissipation too, and the 555 will suffer more current.

With mosfet driver, it can handle 6A (compared that 555 that can handle a few mA) that is better to driving mosfets gates.
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