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new SSTC topload reducing performance

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Avi
Mon Nov 03 2008, 08:05AM Print
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 410
So i decided to test a new topload (the old one was 14.5cm diameter by 3cm high) on my SSTC secondary (specs below).
keeping the same circuit, and readjusting the circuit for resonance, with 12V input it has gone from producing flyback like arcs to ground to less then 1mm ones and can not light a CFL unless placed 1cm from the topload.
At 330v the streamers are 2mm (compared to at least 15cm before).
Is this meant to happen? if so, why?
What steps should i take to get this topload working well?

Secondary Height: 32.7 cm
Secondary Diameter: 6 cm
Secondary Wire Thickness: 0.125 mm

Topload Height: 6.5 cm
Topload Diameter: 32.6 cm

Secondary Height: 12.87401583 Inches
Secondary Diameter: 2.36220474 Inches
Secondary Wire Thickness: 0.00492126 Inches

Topload Height: 2.559055135 Inches
Topload Diameter: 12.83464575 Inches

Turns: 2616
Wire Length: 493.1043829 Meters
Inductance: 68.49849238 mH
Medhurst Self Capacitance: 4.911743013 pF
Topload Capacitance: 13.72626259 pF
Total Capacitance: 18.6380056 pF
Resonant Frequency: 140.8574773 Khz 200Khz Measured
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LithiumLord
Mon Nov 03 2008, 09:46AM
LithiumLord Registered Member #1739 Joined: Fri Oct 03 2008, 10:05AM
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 261
Something is totally wrong. Either you've set up the Fres incorrectly (did you try adjusting it on lower voltages using a neon bulb to tweak it?), or there's some bad connection in the secondary - or there is actually something wrong with the load itself. There are steel corona rings of a hv substation some people managed to get, if you've got one that could be the reason. But still it seems there's something with the ground or the other connections.
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Steve Conner
Mon Nov 03 2008, 11:43AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
A larger topload needs more power to generate a given length of streamer, because of its higher capacitance.

However, a larger topload also alters the impedance matching so as to draw this required extra power, and more, from your driver.

So if your driver can deliver the required extra power efficiently, the result is bigger sparks.

If the driver isn't up to the task, the result is smaller sparks and a blown driver.
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Avi
Mon Nov 03 2008, 01:08PM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 410
It it not the frequency, i have been through the entire range.
I do not own or use any corona rings.
Its not just streamer formation, it does not even light a CFL very well or arc/spark to ground
i am using an H bridge of IRFP450 mosfets with a single GDT drive
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