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Firefox
Fri Oct 24 2008, 06:33AM Print
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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I am building a couple of CW multipliers right now, and I was wondering if these 1.5kV voltmeters would be good for using for measuring voltage if I used them with a voltage divider. However, according to the seller, the DC resistance of the meter is 72 ohms. Could this screw up any readings I try to get with it at say... 30-150kV?

Here they are http://cgi.ebay.com/TESTED-Vintage-Navy-0-1-5kV-Tube-Amp-Panel-Meter_W0QQitemZ140276519466QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140276519466&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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Myke
Fri Oct 24 2008, 06:59AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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You would need a large string of resistors to get the proper voltage drop over 72 ohms... I would ask the seller what the required voltage is to get FS deflection. From that you can figure out the additional resistance you would have to add. You want the resistance to be pretty high as not to load down the multiplier too much.

Another way you can make HV meters is by getting a low current meter (~50-100uA FSD) and adding lots of high voltage resistors to it.

If you want to go all the way up to 150kV I would put the entire resistor string under oil so that your chain of resistors doesn't have to be as long and also it would reduce the losses due to corona.
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Firefox
Fri Oct 24 2008, 08:54PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
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Thanks, Myke. How would I use a uA meter to measure voltage? If I know my ideal output, do I just use a resistor chain to give the maximum current deflection at open circuit voltage?
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Oct 24 2008, 09:36PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Firefox wrote ...

I am building a couple of CW multipliers right now, and I was wondering if these 1.5kV voltmeters would be good for using for measuring voltage if I used them with a voltage divider. However, according to the seller, the DC resistance of the meter is 72 ohms. Could this screw up any readings I try to get with it at say... 30-150kV?
72 ohms is ridiculously low for a voltmeter, they were most probably meant to be used with a series resistor to get full scale deflection at 1.5kV (so they are really amp meters). If no resistor was used, you would get a juicy 31 kilowatts ill (where is the smiley?) on the meter with 1.5kV, I'm not really sure if it would be happy... tongue


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Myke
Sat Oct 25 2008, 01:17AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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You use a uA meter to measure the current flowing through the resistor. From that you can get the voltage. For example: at 10kV there will be 50uA going through a 200M resistor. So with that setup the FSD would be 10kV.
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Firefox
Sat Oct 25 2008, 01:32AM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Thanks guys. I just found a NOS pair of 50uA meters in his items for sale list for 15 bucks. With a 1Gohm resistor, these should have the deflection I want.
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