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GODSFUSION
Sun Mar 26 2006, 08:37AM Print
GODSFUSION Registered Member #157 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 08:00PM
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How do i go about calculating the current draw when dealing with a shorted MOT for a ballast?

- Wayne -
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dan
Sun Mar 26 2006, 03:13PM
dan Registered Member #223 Joined: Mon Feb 20 2006, 06:42PM
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Well I never really much liked 'calculations'. I'm more of a Edisen guy just try different things untill it works. From what I know unmodified mots when shorted will draw 20-30A on 120VAC(limited by there internal shunts).. So the maximum avalible current would be 20-30A. Just put an AC ammeter in series with the shorted mot or use and amp clamp to messure the MAX current.. Of coarse the current actually drawn will be less than this when the mot ballast is connected to a load.

I think there are some fancy formulas that can do this but you would need to know the primaries reactance at 60Hz. an inductor can be use in a freqency dependant voltage divider. see here , This should help you find the reactance of the primary at 60Hz. Now I think you can get away with just plugging the reactance into ohms law I=V/R.
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Sam
Sun Mar 26 2006, 04:42PM
Sam Registered Member #227 Joined: Mon Feb 20 2006, 10:47PM
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damn, I was reading about that last night(all the formulas) and today all my book have been moved 45 minutes away, I'm so lost without my books.
check out google, they where very short formulas, or You could do it hands on and shove in a good AC ammeter in there. I have a 5 amp ballast for mine now, It pulls more than 5 amps from the mains but I dont worry too much.
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GODSFUSION
Mon Mar 27 2006, 11:07AM
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Well rather than using dan's aaproach. what can i expect to get for a current draw while using a MOT as a ballast? What have you all gotten on averge for current draw while using a MOT as a ballast?

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Part Scavenger
Tue Mar 28 2006, 06:26AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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Average is not an easy thing to come up with. It varies widely on the size of the stack and the MOT ballast. All the ballasts I have have a different value.

Just measure the impedance. That's real easy. Just hook a low voltage (5-12V) AC across it and measure current draw.

Then V=IR,

12=Current*impedance

Now you know your impedance, just work it back in:

120V=Current* impedance

That will give you the maximum current allowance for the ballast.

5 min, and you'll have your answer. You can even figure out the inductance, but I don't remember the formula. 'Cause now I got a meter. shades

You'll actually not draw as much current as you'll calculate because the MOT's in the stack will be self ballasting somewhat.
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