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Crimson Rain
Wed Oct 08 2008, 01:03AM Print
Crimson Rain Registered Member #1745 Joined: Wed Oct 08 2008, 12:29AM
Location: Northen Michigan, US
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Im building a static spark gap tesla coil, and Im waiting on parts to come in, but have a general idea on how things will be put together. So, heres my setup:

12kV NST, 60 Hz, 30mA
RFI Filter
Cornell Dubillier 942 CDE .15 uF capacitor rated at 2000V (ill be making a string of 22 to get a capacitance of .00682 uF)
tungsten spark gap w/copper connectors
1/4" copper tubing (for primary, plan to do about 14 turns spaced at 1/4 inch)
22" secondary wound with 26# wire (approximately 1100 turns)
3x12" toroid

Heres a poorly drawn mod edit: and oversized and generally noobish schematic:
Tcsetupsd6

Please, correct me if Im wrong on anything, or give me some suggestions on how I could improve the setup. Thanks guys!!!
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TheBoozer
Wed Oct 08 2008, 01:13AM
TheBoozer Registered Member #1535 Joined: Wed Jun 11 2008, 11:37PM
Location: Northeastern Pennsylvania - USA
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That's almost a perfect match to my first coil. I also added Terry's NST filter. It worked good. I upgraded to a propeller style rotary gap and it worked even better.

I made a vertical helix for my primary. I think I would have been better off with a flat pancake. Yours?

You didn't mention secondary O.D.
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teslacoolguy
Wed Oct 08 2008, 01:13AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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Everything is looking pretty good. One suggestion i would like to make is to replace the safety gap with a terry filter Link2 . It will extend the life of your nst more then a safety gap.
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Coronafix
Wed Oct 08 2008, 03:08AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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I think your capacitor is too small. LTR for your NST is about 10nF, you could use a string of 15 to achieve this and still have a voltage rating of 30kV.
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Crimson Rain
Wed Oct 08 2008, 03:43AM
Crimson Rain Registered Member #1745 Joined: Wed Oct 08 2008, 12:29AM
Location: Northen Michigan, US
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TheBoozer wrote ...

That's almost a perfect match to my first coil. I also added Terry's NST filter. It worked good. I upgraded to a propeller style rotary gap and it worked even better.

I made a vertical helix for my primary. I think I would have been better off with a flat pancake. Yours?

You didn't mention secondary O.D.

Yeah, I plan on doing a flat primary lol. And my outer diamter is about 4.2" on my secondary

teslacoolguy wrote ...

Everything is looking pretty good. One suggestion i would like to make is to replace the safety gap with a terry filter Link2 . It will extend the life of your nst more then a safety gap.

I was debating on whether or not to add a terry filter, so I think I will

Coronafix wrote ...

I think your capacitor is too small. LTR for your NST is about 10nF, you could use a string of 15 to achieve this and still have a voltage rating of 30kV.

Ive tried out some online calculators (deepfriedneon.com's for example) and they calculated it to be .0066 for my transformer, so I dont know :S
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Coronafix
Wed Oct 08 2008, 08:16AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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6.63nF is your resonant cap size (I'm assuming 60Hz line frequency) for a 12kV30mA NST. With a static spark gap
it is recommended that you use a larger than resonant capacitor, usually 1.4-1.5 times resonant value.
This gives a cap value of 9.3-9.9nF. At resonance your cap can see some extreme voltages and even though you have
a bank design that could handle that, chances are your NST won't survive this. More info here Link2
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Crimson Rain
Wed Oct 08 2008, 01:49PM
Crimson Rain Registered Member #1745 Joined: Wed Oct 08 2008, 12:29AM
Location: Northen Michigan, US
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Coronafix wrote ...

6.63nF is your resonant cap size (I'm assuming 60Hz line frequency) for a 12kV30mA NST. With a static spark gap
it is recommended that you use a larger than resonant capacitor, usually 1.4-1.5 times resonant value.
This gives a cap value of 9.3-9.9nF. At resonance your cap can see some extreme voltages and even though you have
a bank design that could handle that, chances are your NST won't survive this. More info here Link2

Thanks, that information was very helpful. Im going to change my cap chain to about 16, giving me a capacitance of .00938 uF. If needed, I can remove one for a nice clean 0.01 uF. Theres always time for experimentation cheesey
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