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Building a non-lethal insect shock mat for bio research, a few questions

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DrZoidberg
Tue Oct 14 2008, 06:18PM
DrZoidberg Registered Member #350 Joined: Mon Mar 27 2006, 05:14PM
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You don't need 200H to get a 90° phase shift. You could also use an RC circuit with an amplifier connected to the resistor to amplify the phase shifted voltage that drops across it.
200H are btw. cheap if you don't care about resistance. The primary coils of small transformers have a very high inductance. Can be several hundred H in some cases. But the resistance is quite high.
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aonomus
Wed Oct 15 2008, 05:21AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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The original protocol seems to work at 60Hz regardless of the voltage in the transformers, so at least I have a buildingblock for the rotating electrical field....

Ran a simulation (Yes I could have run it in LTSpice but I was lazy and its 1:20AM) - seems to be nearly 90deg shifted.

Shifted

Edit: w00t, 300th post!
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Steve Conner
Wed Oct 15 2008, 01:08PM
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Why not just get two MOTs, connect both to the line, and put a capacitor in series with the primary of one of them to provide a phase shift.
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aonomus
Sun Dec 07 2008, 11:33PM
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So a bit of a necro here, I finally got the foam needed for the stuff, turns out its resistance is way too high and I might need to apply some treatment to it to get its resistance down. In the interest of saving time I've been thinking about graphite lubricant spray.

Does anyone know if it
1 - has no organic residue after drying, or has no organic carrier (I'm afraid the chemicals might harm the beetles, or simply dissolve the foam on application).
2 - is electrically conductive, or if it is encapsulated to prevent conductivity?
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