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Mysterious MOSFET/IGBT deaths

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Mon Sept 22 2008, 06:13PM
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If you are seeing large spikes at the switching events your 330v bus is probably ringing up to some voltage well above your 500v max reverse voltage for the fets. Also one thing to check as Matt B pointed out is that many fets can't handing switching their full rated voltage at their rated current; but rather have a 'safe operating area' that limits the voltage/current they can safely switch at. Check this in the datasheet of the top secret few you are using.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Sept 22 2008, 06:17PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Richie, the problem with my scope is that it's an ancient tube one, and will display the spikes even when I short the probes together and connect to the circuit, also the magnitude of the spikes is affected by the vert.ampl. switch (the signal can be clean at lesser amplification and get extremely spikey when increasing the amp)


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GeordieBoy
Mon Sept 22 2008, 06:32PM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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> ...and will display the spikes even when I short the probes together and connect to the circuit.

If you short the probe tip to probe ground, and spikes appear when you bring it NEAR TO your system being tested, then this is caused by magnetic pickup. Most likely of the fringing flux from the flyback transformer. The solution is to twist the scope probe's earth-clip wire around the length of the probe to reduce the loop area, therefore reducing it's sensitivity to pickup.

On the other hand...

If you short the probe tip to probe ground, and spikes appear as soon as you CONNECT this to the ground rail of your system being tested, then this is caused by common-mode current being driven down the shield of the scope probe cable. You can reduce this effect by looping the scope probe's coaxial cable through a high-perm ferrite toroid a few times. (The added common-mode inductance discourages fast edges from travelling down the shield because it raises the impedance at high frequencies. It won't distort the signal being measured, it just removes the unwanted common-mode component.)

These are tricks I picked up from working on SMPSUs for the last decade.
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