If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #1451
Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
Location: Boulder, Co
Posts: 661
I've done a lot of electronics in my garage but it's all been analogue stuff (coilguns, tesla coil, high voltage, all the fun dangerous stuff) and i thought it would be great to get into microcontrollers. Not to mention my project goals are getting too advanced for analogue stuff. My question is, would it be fairly easy to build a developers board and program something like PIC or AVR from scratch, or would it be better to buy a pre built thing such as http://www.microchipdirect.com/ProductSearch.aspx?Keywords=DV164101?
I'm a very fast learner and and have good problem solving skills, and would rather build something from scratch rather than buy something, but it that is too far out of my league i would like to know.
Also, what is the better of the two products, PIC or AVR? I need something that i can do very basic stuff with but that i can also push fairly far when i get the knowledge.
Registered Member #33
Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
Location: Norway
Posts: 971
As a PIC person myself, I naturally recommend PICs
If you have a computer with a serial port, making a programmer yourself is not very hard (for PICs at least). If you want a programmer that runs over USB, it's cheapest to buy one, for example the one you linked to, but it's possible to build one yourself if that's what you want.
AVRs used to be more powerful, but microchip have released the PIC18 series since then, so I think they are about equal on the 8-bit market.
Unfortunately I don't have the time to go deeper into the PIC/AVR comparison now, but for a good summary, check this:
Registered Member #260
Joined: Sun Feb 26 2006, 09:51PM
Location:
Posts: 17
You might also want to give the Arduino a shot. This is an AVR development board based off of the Atmega168.
You can find ordering information, tutorials, and programming reference at http://arduino.cc
My buddy and I have been working on a robot based on the Atmega168 and it's easy as cake to program. It's a C based language with its own IDE. It's a very good starter chip as it's very easy to learn as the net is full of projects, tutorials, libraries, and references.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.
General Microcontroller Help
