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aonomus
Sat Aug 09 2008, 11:13PM Print
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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I was going to have bought a new drill press today but I got rained out so postponed it. I was wondering if any other 4hvers had drill presses and what success they've had when trying to drill PCBs using carbide bits?

Also has anyone tried using a 2 axis vise to allow them to do extremely low duty milling?
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tesla500
Sat Aug 09 2008, 11:52PM
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If you're drilling PCBs, a Dremel drill press and Dremel tool are what you want (or a purpose designed PCB drill press, but those are usually expensive). Full size drill presses don't go fast enough, and it would be very easy to break the bit.

David
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Proud Mary
Sun Aug 10 2008, 12:11AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I have a Dremel Work Station drill press, in which I have a Dremel 300 mounted, and find it very capable for all general PCB work.

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aonomus
Sun Aug 10 2008, 12:55AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Its going to be tough for me to justify buying both a drill press (for larger holes, chassis/heatsink, and slight metal milling), and the dremel press. My 'dremel' is a Canadian Tire branded mastercraft one which I'm not sure would even fit.

What is the recommended RPM that I would want to have the bit moving at regardless of the tool?
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Sun Aug 10 2008, 02:02AM
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Spin your drill as fast as you can, those carbide bits are designed for 30K+ rpm

I have my dremel mounted on a linear slide (spring loaded up) which works great for me. You don't really need the whole drill press, just a way to keep the bit strait and not moving arround.
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ragnar
Sun Aug 10 2008, 03:31AM
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I use a Proxxon 28481 running at 20,000rpm for my carbide bits.
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aonomus
Sun Aug 10 2008, 04:54AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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I suppose my priority first is to get my drill press, I can drill PCBs using HSS bits if absolutely neccessary while still being able to drill holes in aluminum heatsinks, instead of only being able to do PCB holes without being able to do anything else...
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ragnar
Sun Aug 10 2008, 05:41AM
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Yeah, the Proxxon 28481 will really only handle up to 3.175mm drills; I actually use a hand-drill for everything but PCB work. It works wonders on a small apartment balcony with a stepped drill bit for enclosures, aluminium heatsinks, copper-cladding or ABS boxes.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Sun Aug 10 2008, 07:31AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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Been using a press with a 2 axis table for 9 years for my one-off boards. The bearings are shot now because I used it for milling Aluminium, so I can't use carbide drills anymore. That's not a terrible big deal with this one because its chuck goes down to #80 drills, so I use HSS drills for most of the holes.
Your problem with modern presses is that their chucks don't go down to #80, so after you snap a bunch of $3 carbide drills and realize that the HSS ones will tolerate more and are better on your pocket, you'll really go for that chuck that goes down to a #80. Unfortunately you'll need either another chuck with an arbor (micro-chuck), or a really good chuck by itself. A seperate chuck with an arbor is probably the way to go, just make sure its good quality especially for high rpm's.

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aonomus
Sun Aug 10 2008, 08:07AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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I just remembered that somewhere in my apartment I have fairly heavy duty keyboard tray rails, so I might be able to cobble together a dremel press without shelling out the money on a big one... time will tell (I move back into the apartment in a week or so).

And @ Hazmatt: I've read that the bearings either get damaged or the spindle itself get bent causing chatter which means broken carbide bits. Could the feed direction of your material either reduce, or cause damage to the drill press?
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