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Electrodiode
Thu Jul 24 2008, 05:30PM Print
Electrodiode Registered Member #1605 Joined: Thu Jul 24 2008, 04:22PM
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Link2

^ i'm wanting to build one like that but in the text below the circuit it says that

The transformer is a 9kV 30mA neon transformer that is rectified by a string of ten 1N4007 diodes for a 10kV 1A rectifier rating


But in the schematic it looks likes its only showing two diodes and ten 1Meg ohm resistors. By the way this is my first post I have been hanging around on the forum for a few weeks reading and researching finally deiced to register nice site i plan to stay.

Circuit4

Thanks for you help
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Kizmo
Thu Jul 24 2008, 06:07PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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It is just simplified schematic. Each diode in your drawing is actually string of ten.
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Electrodiode
Thu Jul 24 2008, 06:55PM
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Ok so ill need 10 of them in a series on both sides before the series of resistors? Isn't that over kill?
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GluD
Thu Jul 24 2008, 07:37PM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
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Actutally id say its abit of a under kill since as far i as know a 1n4007 is rated for 1kv only, meaning 10 of them would be 10kv which is exactly what the transformer is said to output, so its likely the diodes are gona be damaged. If not instantly then after some time of operation. But thats just me, so dont count on it.
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Herr Zapp
Thu Jul 24 2008, 07:41PM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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Electrodiode -

If you are going to use a 9KV NST, the schematic you have shown cannot be used without some minor modifications, or at least some understanding of the different "grounds" involved. A 9KV NST will most likely have a centerpoint ground. Your schematic shows a ground connection just above C1; this is actually the "return" for the HV output of the generator. Make sure that you don't connect this "ground" to the AC ground, or to the NST case. If you did, you would be simply shorting out the output of 1/2 of your NST.

Regards,
Herr Zapp
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Electrodiode
Thu Jul 24 2008, 10:18PM
Electrodiode Registered Member #1605 Joined: Thu Jul 24 2008, 04:22PM
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OK thanks for the help but i have a another question i came across but if doubt it will work.
Marxcct

It looks to simple there are no other Components other than the resistors and caps would just building something like that work as well?
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Myke
Fri Jul 25 2008, 12:58AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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You would have to have a high enough input voltage so that the spark gaps will break down. I donno if this is needed but you could put more 1M resistors in series to increase the voltage rating on them.
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Shaun
Fri Jul 25 2008, 01:47AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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A Marx generator must be fed with DC. NSTs are transformers and output AC, which is why the first schematic you posted included diodes. The second one is just the basic schematic for a Marx gen. It assumes you are using a DC power supply.
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Electrodiode
Fri Jul 25 2008, 01:50AM
Electrodiode Registered Member #1605 Joined: Thu Jul 24 2008, 04:22PM
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Shaun wrote ...

A Marx generator must be fed with DC. NSTs are transformers and output AC, which is why the first schematic you posted included diodes. The second one is just the basic schematic for a Marx gen. It assumes you are using a DC power supply.


Ah Ok i see now so i would basically need 10 diodes in series.

And the resistors and caps correct?

again thanks for your help. I have done research i just want to make sure i get my ducks in a row before i buy the parts.
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