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Dragon64
Tue Jul 22 2008, 05:20PM Print
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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About a month ago, I used a black transparent waterbottle to store ammonium hydroxide (Household ammonia)

I took the waterbottle out to use the ammonium hydroxide but a weird thing that happened to the ammonium hydroxide and the waterbottle.

Here's a picture of it, can someone tell me what happened to the waterbottle? and the ammonium hydroxide?

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aonomus
Tue Jul 22 2008, 05:31PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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That looks like a polycarbonate water bottle, and Link2 says that ammonia damages it, so, bad luck for you I guess whatever is in there isn't pure enough to use, and the bottle is kinda useless now.
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Dragon64
Tue Jul 22 2008, 09:17PM
Dragon64 Registered Member #1438 Joined: Sat Apr 12 2008, 12:57AM
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aonomus wrote ...

That looks like a polycarbonate water bottle, and Link2 says that ammonia damages it, so, bad luck for you I guess whatever is in there isn't pure enough to use, and the bottle is kinda useless now.

Well nothing very harmful is in that bottle then? Would it be safe to dispose of it in the garbage?
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aonomus
Wed Jul 23 2008, 12:24AM
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Its still ammonia hydroxide, and I'm assuming that the plastic was hydrolyzed, at the very least I would neutralize the stuff inside to 7pH if not for the safety of whoever handles it after you.

Edit: for future chemical storage, polyethylene is one of the more unreactive plastics, its just one long hydrocarbon chain in the end, few if any double bonds or oxygens to attack.
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Bored Chemist
Wed Jul 23 2008, 05:51AM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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At least some of the ammonia will have reacted with the phthalic acid made by hydrolysis. Neutralising it might be polite but even diluting the liquid and flushing it into the sewer system would be a better idea than throwing it out as-is.
Incidentally ammonium hydroxide doesn't exist.
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