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dingo27
Tue Jun 24 2008, 04:31PM Print
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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i have IR2111, driving IRFS630A, i connected as in datasheet from scheme

Link2

but i have no signal on output.
I am sure there is input signal, because i tried connected fet directly to IR input (without IR) an it worked.
Am i gonna need to drive halfbridge instead of 1 mosfet??? Currently i just connected all as in scheme and HV output connected to ground through 10kohm resistor

I am powering that with 12V

When i add it 5V, it has 12V output, when i connect it to ground, same.
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GeordieBoy
Tue Jun 24 2008, 04:44PM
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You need both MOSFETs present and switching for the IR's bootstrap circuit to work correctly.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Jun 24 2008, 08:22PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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And to add, the bootstrap drivers are no good for driving highly inductive loads, because the bridge output for unknown reasons often spikes many volts under the negative power rail and can overvolage the bootstrap driver. Also the lower output seems to go wild if the bootstrap negative supply is a few volts below the negative power rail.
This may be solved by high-current, ultrafast soft recovery diodes across the FETs (the internal diodes might need bypassing by fast Schottky rectifiers).
This has been many months of explosive experience for me until I found this out.


Hope that was clear enough for you




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dingo27
Tue Jun 24 2008, 08:56PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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well i have no idea what is "bootstrap" (meaning of word)...

i have fast diodes across mosfets, so i think i try both mosfets. In Halfbridge can be any AC capacitor ? (that 2 on one side of primary)

Like this Link2 from PC power supply, i tried few little ones but i think that was not the best.

edit: isnt the bootstrap the circuit that drive Higher level FET?
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Jun 24 2008, 09:02PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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dingo27 wrote ...

edit: isnt the bootstrap the circuit that drive Higher level FET?
yes, and by "bootstrap driver" I was referring to the IR21xx series etc. half-bridge drivers.
The decoupling capacitor can be nearly any film or foil cap with enough voltage rating (should be 200V at least if you are using 230V mains) and for start, a value around 2uF.



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dingo27
Tue Jun 24 2008, 10:28PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
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well currently i am using 36V power supply (to test things)...

i connected all as i think is good but nothing. Maybe i try to figure out resonant frequency of TC and give to IR2111 signal from ne555n,

this coiling is getting my crazy frown cry dead
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