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Solidacid
Wed May 21 2008, 11:03PM Print
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
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hey all, i have been looking for an automatic switch(for low voltage capacitors) that wont let any power trough until it reaches a certain voltage, then when it reaches the correct voltage it will keep conducting until the capacitors have discharged. any suggestions on how to do this? sorry for poor grammar (im posting from a psp)
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rp181
Wed May 21 2008, 11:43PM
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could you do it with a scr? have a resistor connected to the get through the cap bank.
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mikeselectricstuff
Wed May 21 2008, 11:57PM
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depends what you mean by 'discharged'..
A SCR would be the obvious choice, but you'd need to arrange a trigger at teh required voltage, e.g. with a comparator, voltage detector IC (e.g. MCP100), or sidac for higher voltages (100s)
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Avi
Wed May 21 2008, 11:58PM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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diac?
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Shaun
Thu May 22 2008, 12:09AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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Yes, I would agree with Avi. A DIAC or SIDAC seems to be the obvious choice here. They are nicknamed "solid-state spark gaps" because thats exactly what they do. At a certain voltage they instantly allow current flow and then shut off when current stops.
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Weston
Thu May 22 2008, 01:34AM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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It would have to be a SIDAC because diacs are lower current devices.
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Solidacid
Thu May 22 2008, 06:51AM
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
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there is only 1 electronics store where i live and they don't sell sidacs, the only diac they sell is a 32volt, i need about 3-5. i have no idea what they do but could i use a thyristor a triac or maybe a Varistor?
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Zum Beispiel
Thu May 22 2008, 12:39PM
Zum Beispiel Registered Member #514 Joined: Sun Feb 11 2007, 12:27AM
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Depending on your application, I'd say a comparator should do it. Have it trigger a thyristor and you're set. Cheap and you can get the parts anywhere.
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Sulaiman
Thu May 22 2008, 08:56PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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You don't need a DIAC/SIDAC/SHOCKLEY diode, just a zener will do because
once the gate current has triggered the thyristor it can be removed,
the thyristor will remain 'on' for as long as the anode-cathode current remains above the
"holding current"
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Solidacid
Thu May 22 2008, 09:37PM
Solidacid Registered Member #1430 Joined: Sun Apr 06 2008, 11:12AM
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so i need a zener and a thyristor? im kinda new to this, could you tell me what rating those should have and how to connect them? im running a 3v(or so, motor on solar charged capacitors with with 47000uF)
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