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Ignition Coil Audio Modulation

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blanham
Thu May 15 2008, 07:04PM Print
blanham Registered Member #1485 Joined: Thu May 15 2008, 06:29PM
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Hi,
I recently built a audio modulated ignition coil, and am now looking at ways to improve the sound quality and spark length. I am currently using the basic 555/2n2055 circuit, using two 2n3055s in a darlington configuration, this in turn drives two ignition coils in an anti-parallel configuration. The main problem I am having right now is that the audio is covered up by the carrier frequency. Single notes come out ok, and regular audio is low but audible. I am trying to limit myself to parts on hand, but I do have quite a few tl494's and various mosfets laying around. I also need advice on how to protect the current driver from damage.

Current Driver: Link2
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Experimentonomen
Thu May 15 2008, 08:51PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Get a flyback is the only advice i can give, preferably a small one that can be driven to high freq and that wont consume alot of power.
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Steve Conner
Fri May 16 2008, 09:29AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Yes, you won't be able to use a high carrier frequency with ignition coils, you need some other kind of transformer that can run at higher frequency.
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Berni
Fri May 16 2008, 10:04AM
Berni Registered Member #1132 Joined: Mon Nov 19 2007, 06:15PM
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Ignition coils are never good for audio modulation. As sead before use a flyback

Only way i see to make the ignition coil work for it is to remove the iron core inside the coil or meaby replace it.I dont recomend doing this since its a VERY messy job doing that
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lpfthings
Fri May 16 2008, 11:50AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Yep, you need a transformer capable of much higher frequencies. Pulling a ingition coil out of its can is hard enough, but then you gotta get all the oil off the coil, and get the core out somehow.
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Arcstarter
Fri May 16 2008, 06:02PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Well i used a very similar circuit but a few different things. It is a quite high powered flyback driver. I audio modulated it too by using pin 5. I got around 2 to 3 inch flaming arcs. It could go up to 210 watt pulling 4 amps at 50 volts. I used an irfp460 for good performance. Get one, you will not regret it. Buy either one from ebay for around 2 bucks or just buy 20 like i did for 20 buck or something.






Well here is the basic schematic...
Link2
I used a smaller capacitor(you will have the find by experimenting) and for the pot and resistor between pin 7 and 2 i used a 2.2kohm resistor for maximum duty cycle. I hooked a 12 volt adapter up to pins 1 and 8 accordingly and i connected the flybacks power supply from the negative to the negative on the bread board(the one that the capacitor and pin 1 is connected to) and the positive to the primary on the flyback. The power supply for the flyback is a 50 volt transformer and a bridge rectifier with a 470 uf capacitor for filtering. You can use anywhere from 100uf to 500uf with the same results. This was all made on a breadboard for simplicity. I used a irfp460 mosfet and a 16ohm resistor from the gate to pin 3, but you can use any mosfet or transistor as long as the rated voltage is at least 4 times greater than power supply for flyback and must be mounted on an appropriate sized heatsink with an appropriate value resistor for limiting current from gate(or base for transistors) and they should be rated for 8 amps or more. Hope this will help!
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