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lpfthings
Thu May 15 2008, 06:45AM Print
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Hey guys

I am about to start building some rolled caps, but i need a powerful DC supply to test them with. So my best bet would be rectifying my NST. I dont have money to go out and buy super fast HV switching diodes, so i am trying to se stuff i can get down the road. Could i use a bunch of 2N4007's (i think thats what they are)?

Thanks
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lpfthings
Thu May 15 2008, 07:01AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Sorry for the double post, thought i'd ask while i was at it. below is a pic of my NST. GND is mains ground, HV is HV and line is mains. There is a spare screw terminal next to the mains ground with a weird looking e on it. I'm thinking this may be a centre tap, can anyone confirm?
1210834882 1361 FT45329 Nst
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Steve Conner
Thu May 15 2008, 09:38AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Apologizing for double posts doesn't make it right. You should have posted the picture in the attachments board, and then edited your original post to include it.
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Hhhhhhhhh
Thu May 15 2008, 10:17AM
Hhhhhhhhh Registered Member #1340 Joined: Thu Feb 21 2008, 12:47AM
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I've never seen that tranformer before, I would use a Ohmmeter to find the center tap.
disconect power first:)
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lpfthings
Thu May 15 2008, 09:27PM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Well i tried arcing each HV lead to it, and it seems to work. Now that i think of it, the diode is a 1N4007 ?
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Shaun
Fri May 16 2008, 03:30AM
Shaun Registered Member #690 Joined: Tue May 08 2007, 03:47AM
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1N4007 are very commonly used as rectifiers at 50/60Hz, so you don't have to worry about speed at all. They are, however, only rated for 1kV. You will need a bunch in series for each leg of the rectifier.
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lpfthings
Fri May 16 2008, 05:50AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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Yeah i figured that. Well since my NST is 15kv, i'd need 15 on EACH HV leg, or just one? Actually, i'll make it 18, always above the rating.
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Dr. Slack
Fri May 16 2008, 06:54AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Make it 30. As they are neither avalanche rated nor intended to be seriesed (specified reverse recovery time, charge storage and junction capacitiance), you can assume they won't share nice.

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whoa! 15kV rms is 20oddkV peak, and you need to withstand the peak volts. Make it 45.

It doesn't matter whether you run diodes from just one 7.5kV leg or from both, you'll get the same DC voltage. Rectifying both legs will give you less ripple and more current output capability, however neither is necessary for testing caps.

Given the large number of diodes you need, I'd build just two strings of 45, and use one leg to give both +10kv and -10kV outputs, for 20kV balanced.

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Hhhhhhhhh
Fri May 16 2008, 07:41AM
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could mot rectifiers work or are they diffrent. asuming you could find them. i used to have alot of them but, i don't think i had enoth to rectify a nst.

Hmm.. DC caps those cap allways bit me when i worked with them be careful I was and still, they would suprise me snap!!!
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lpfthings
Fri May 16 2008, 07:51AM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
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lol it's $8 a packet for 100, so i dont care if i blow a few along the way. Is there a limit as to how many you can wire in series? If not, then i could make strings of 50 , 1 for each leg.
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