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teslacoolguy
Thu Apr 24 2008, 12:42PM Print
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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Im building a large coil running at 4.8kw 9kv and a resonant frequency of 109khz and according to my calculations i need at least 0.1uf of capacitence and i was thinking of going with the proven cde caps but i just dont have the funds to buy those and i was wondering if any of you know what kind of capacitor i should consider using that doesent cost as much.

edit: i searched ebay and found Link2 or Link2 so tell me if you recommend me getting one of those or if i should still keep looking.
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Lakeowner
Thu Apr 24 2008, 03:43PM
Lakeowner Registered Member #1370 Joined: Mon Mar 03 2008, 09:01AM
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I'll buy CJE caps too:
Link2
They are made in China, so don't expect too high quality :). They seem OK, but dV/dt sees low. Last one has value of 130V/µs, but it is probably misspelling. Otherwise it will be totally out of tesla coil design.

Edit: note that at least my caps have identical specifications with CDE's caps. CJE is also near CDE...
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teslacoolguy
Thu Apr 24 2008, 04:15PM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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I dident even see that capacitor that is almost identical to the cde caps so i will do some calculating because thhat may be the way to go.
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J. Aaron Holmes
Thu Apr 24 2008, 06:46PM
J. Aaron Holmes Registered Member #477 Joined: Tue Jun 20 2006, 11:51PM
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teslacoolguy wrote ...

I dident even see that capacitor that is almost identical to the cde caps so i will do some calculating because thhat may be the way to go.

I think most people just assume that you can build anything with almost no $$ and have it work well. Large coils, however, do generally require some funds. Else they're no better than the junk they're made of, and dumping in more power will simply hasten their inevitable doom. Since you'll obviously be spending some serious time building a ~5kVA coil (that's a lot of careful calculation, power supply construction, gap construction, winding a big secondary, etc.), why not spend just a little more time and save up the $150 that it will cost you for the minimum order of 50 of the CDE caps from Richardson Electronics? You'd even have some leftovers that you could resell here on 4hv.org, I bet. And then you can build a nice MMC that will be worth your effort. Seriously, you should think about the big picture! It's really not worth your trouble to do all that other stuff if you're just going to do it with crap. Small coils can run on crap and survive. Big coils (and I consider ~5kVA to be darn good sized!) just won't. If you're not prepared to build a big coil using quality parts, I would recommend building something smaller.

Cheers,
Aaron, N7OE
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teslacoolguy
Thu Apr 24 2008, 08:40PM
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I sampled some caps from cde so im hoping they come and then im going to sample some more to my grandfathers address so i decided to go with those and hopefully that will cut down the cost
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Ken M.
Thu Apr 24 2008, 08:47PM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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I sampled some a week ago and got an email saying theyd send them or at least I think thats what eh email means, either way I have YET to get them.
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teslacoolguy
Thu Apr 24 2008, 09:05PM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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dont scare me like that cry no just kidding give it some more time before giving up all hope because hey after all they are doing you a favor smile .
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MOT_man
Mon Apr 28 2008, 04:27AM
MOT_man Registered Member #1127 Joined: Mon Nov 19 2007, 12:08AM
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I'd go with heavy duty 1600 VDC 0.68 uF CDE caps. These guys are great with high current discharges and I've pushed these caps at 2 times DC rating without a single cap faliure. Yep... they are $4.25 each ... but hell.. if you want power here is how you do it. Go with Richardson Electronic.... and order in a big amount!
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teslacoolguy
Fri May 02 2008, 12:23PM
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I sampled 30 cde capacitors and got 10 of them today so im hoping i get more tomorrow so hopefully i will be able to make a nice mmc soon.
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teslacoolguy
Sat May 10 2008, 05:19PM
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Will these capacitors work well because they are in stock and i need to start making the mmc? Link2
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