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MRacerxdl
Sat Apr 05 2008, 09:52PM Print
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Hi all,

I was made my first sucess on SSTC, I get 15cm sparks with 400W~ power input :D
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Now I wanna now how to increase the Power of my SSTC before going to the fullbridge version.

I am using two IRFP250 running at Half-Wave Retified 127VAC, the two caps of the Bridge are 680nF 250V~ Siemens capacitors and two MUR860 Diodes in parallel with the D-S of mosfets. The power supply have a variac on it, so I can control if I get something wrong on the way.

My GDT part have two 5R resistors on the Gate of Mosfet, I didnt put the zeners because I think it was unescessary (My GDT is 1:1:1). On the driver side I have two TC4429 (inverted) with 330nF Polypropilene cap bank ( I tryed with 1uF Polypropilene cap bank, and my mosfets died :( )

I am using no Interrupter.
My secondary is 30cm of 30AWG wound in 4' tube. My topload have 6pF (Sphere).

How can I increase the power output?

Thanks :D !!
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Mon Apr 07 2008, 01:00AM
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Since you are pretty much maxed out voltage wise with your mosfets, you best bet would be to increase the current. The preferable way to do this is by increasing coupling, which can be done by winding the primary closer to the secondary, and spacing out the turns a little. I think that the best coupling could be had by winding the turns directly on the secondary spaced out to cover the lower 1/3 of the secondary, but of course it would be impossible to insulate.

After you have increased coupling as much as you can before it starts to ark over, the next step would be to start reducing the turn count--the less turns that more output you will get. Of course, at some point your transistor will explode, which means you have too few turns, so you probably want to add a few more.

After that the only way to go is with a bigger transistor, the rif460 is a pretty common choice...
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Apr 07 2008, 02:38AM
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Your best bet is to stay with the half=bridge, but go with a DRSSTC arrangement.

Otherwise, try reducing some turns on the primary.
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Ken M.
Mon Apr 07 2008, 03:06AM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
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The best and closest thing to winding a primary ON a secondary and having it insulated I can think of is the way I do it. Heres a pic ]1198159982 618 FT1630 Sd530543
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vasil
Mon Apr 07 2008, 10:49AM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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I remember that Steve Wards maximized the output of his SSTCs just using a seried capacitor with the primary, around 0.5 x Cres, so a DRSSTC-like setup. The curent in the primary will increase by canceling more primary inductance. An increased coupling will help too. Use heavy insulated stranded wire like THIS wound directly on the secondary. Increase slowly the input with a variac and observe possible corona in a dark room. In this way you will know the height of the primary coil.
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MRacerxdl
Tue Apr 08 2008, 08:12PM
MRacerxdl Registered Member #989 Joined: Sat Sept 08 2007, 02:15AM
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My primary is exact over the secondary, when I turned on the first time, I see a glow between primary and secondary, but it stops when I put the low side of the Secondary to the Ground.
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Mates
Tue Apr 08 2008, 09:38PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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I think it is always worth to leave an air gap between your primary and secondary and rather play with the hight and number of turns. The fact you see the glow is not good. My experience is that the tight winding of primary straight on the secondary (despite the presence of insulation) is decreasing the output. Air has much higher resistance than any plastic material you can get... If you check all the high power SSTC or DRSSTC projects on the web you will see they always keep an air gap between the windings so it must have a reason.

(This is also a message for Ken M, maybe you are right but only for the low power coils...)


I wish you good luck and not too many death transitors in your high power tunning...Don't forget to send us some pictures wink

BTW: I also noticed that your primary is made of very tiny wire, you should get real piece of copper for primary of a high power coil...
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