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coldcity
Sat Mar 22 2008, 02:19PM Print
coldcity Registered Member #1406 Joined: Thu Mar 20 2008, 12:12PM
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Hi all, I'm looking to rectify about 5Kv AC. Current draw will be less than 100ma.

I have found a few DB3506P (datasheet here) in my bits box. It's a 35A fast recovery rectifier.

I was wondering if these would be any use for what I want to do?

Common sense says no, but as I'm quite new to HV I'm sanity-checking everything at this stage.

The search for HV diodes continues..
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Mar 22 2008, 02:22PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Well it's a bridge rectifier rated at 400 to 1000V if I can see well from the datasheet... If it is rated at 1000V at most, do you think you can rectify 5kV with it? Answer for yourself smile


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coldcity
Sat Mar 22 2008, 03:01PM
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Sorry, I should have been more explicit. I know they won't work directly; I meant, is there any possible way of chaining them, similar to making HV single diodes from a string of smaller rated ones?
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Bjørn
Sat Mar 22 2008, 03:04PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Have a look here: Link2

Since you only need 5 kV you can make the string a lot shorter.
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coldcity
Sat Mar 22 2008, 03:06PM
coldcity Registered Member #1406 Joined: Thu Mar 20 2008, 12:12PM
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... but I really can't see a way.

Piggy-backing them would put their diodes in parallel - I *think* all that would do for each diode pair is cause all current to go through the diode with the lowest forward voltage drop, unless they're very close in value in which case it could allow higher current capabilities; but still not what I'm after.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Mar 22 2008, 03:07PM
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I don't think it's possible to stack bridge rectifiers for higher voltages.
As Bjørn said you would be best by making a string of ~10 fast 1000V diodes (UF4007, BA159 etc.), (assuming you are rectifying high frequency).
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coldcity
Sat Mar 22 2008, 03:08PM
coldcity Registered Member #1406 Joined: Thu Mar 20 2008, 12:12PM
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Oops, ignore my previous - we were posting at the same time.

Thanks, I know that technique but am diodeless at the moment, hence the search for work-with-what-I-got alternatives. Time to go rip something diode-rich apart :D


A few wallwarts later - I am dioded :)


[Edit: ...and double posted]
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Sun Mar 23 2008, 03:04AM
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In the future, you could have seriesed the bridges by using only one 'leg' of the bridge, and just ignoring the extra 3 diodes. You would loose the full wave rectifier, but you would at least be able to halfwave rectify the source (or if you are feeling adventurous add a capacitor and make a 'level shifter' voltage doubler).
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Mar 23 2008, 07:10AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Hey - I looked at the bridge rectifier schematic again and it seems you can actually use 2 of the diodes of each bridge! Just connect them that "-" is your anode and "+" cathode.

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coldcity
Sun Mar 23 2008, 11:47AM
coldcity Registered Member #1406 Joined: Thu Mar 20 2008, 12:12PM
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Hi both - of course!! Why didn't I think of that? Thank you very much :)

I'll try stringing a few of these rectifiers together as suggested, and post results.
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