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removing protection from NST?

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SilentPhoenix
Wed Feb 27 2008, 03:00PM Print
SilentPhoenix Registered Member #1258 Joined: Wed Jan 23 2008, 11:52AM
Location: Haarlem, Netherlands
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i recently got 4 NST's from a friend of mine but they're protected against open circuit and earth leakage.
they're Resinblocks from F.A.R.T. neon. the specs are:

4000/25
6000/25
8000/25
8000/25

the idea was to put the two 8kV ones in parallel to get 8000/50. this way i could use them to test my cap and primary without having to worry about frying them since i have another 8000/50 lying around.
the problem is that the protection is making them shut down after a (very)little while as you can see on this video:
Link2
i thought that removing the protection devices would solve the issue but it didn't, it simply stopped the gap from running at all :S
this probably means i have to bridge some of the connectors that the device was connected to but i don't know which ones.
has anyone got experience with this? can i mess it up real bad when i connect them the wrong way around?


update:
i found this Link2 pic on the manufacturers website Link2 but i can't really see if i should connect 3 to 5 or 6. the same goes for 4...


[Edit: Sorry, no double posting allowed.]
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Ultra7
Wed Feb 27 2008, 04:00PM
Ultra7 Registered Member #1157 Joined: Thu Dec 06 2007, 12:11PM
Location: Houston, TX
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Hazmatt knows more about this than I do.
Link2
I'd say give his thread a read, and then ask him what he did.
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Experimentonomen
Wed Feb 27 2008, 04:11PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Those seem like smps style nst´s which will not work with tesla stuff.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Thu Feb 28 2008, 03:03AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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I wasn't able to determine much information from the website. I think its just a core and coil from looking at their test circuit. And the little block that's getting removed is their protective switch to limit open circuit voltage or current when a tube dies.
If this is all it does, then the transformer should operate without it. What you might have though is a transformer that has gone open circuit, you'll need to do a resistance check on the secondary to ground on each side while the power is off to make sure the coils are still good. Your cap might have been 'too much' for the NST, which yes I have done before, sometimes it happens.

I'm not real sure about their protection setup here. What I was doing is just bypassing the GFCI in the box type NST. And really, the NST works normally with the GFCI, so you know, sometimes we have to experiment a little and see what works.

Matt
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SilentPhoenix
Thu Feb 28 2008, 11:58AM
SilentPhoenix Registered Member #1258 Joined: Wed Jan 23 2008, 11:52AM
Location: Haarlem, Netherlands
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i removed the protection device and bridged the 3-6 and 4-5 connectors on both NST's and now it's running like a charm: Link2
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