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Best material for a chicken stick ??

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sparky99
Fri Feb 22 2008, 02:24AM Print
sparky99 Registered Member #1159 Joined: Fri Dec 07 2007, 02:10AM
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Hello all,
Is PVC the bast material for making a chicken stick? I have a small AB Chance grounding stick, but wouldn't feel comfortable using it with the 125 KV X-Ray transformer I've got. I'm figuring something 7 or 8 feet long. I tend to err on the safe side smile

Bob
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rp181
Fri Feb 22 2008, 04:01AM
rp181 Registered Member #1062 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2007, 02:01AM
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7 or 8 feet is a bit long to handle. PVC is a good insulator, just use 2ft. and rubber gloves.
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Zum Beispiel
Fri Feb 22 2008, 08:54AM
Zum Beispiel Registered Member #514 Joined: Sun Feb 11 2007, 12:27AM
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I'd say use as long a stick as possible. Don't make it too long or it will be clumsy to handle, though. PVC is good material, just make sure it's clean and dry before you use it.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Feb 22 2008, 10:25AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I use (dry) wooden rod for my sticks just because the arcing wire tends to get very hot and melts through plastic. When you make sure the wooden rod is completely dry, it is a good insulator otherwise I don't recommend it to anyone.


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Mates
Fri Feb 22 2008, 12:04PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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Your question reminded me a small accident which happened to me and in other cases could have serious consequences. I used a stick from a swab to play with my HV device. The stick which looked like it is whole made of a white PP (or PVC) plastic was in fact only plastic coated metal tube suprised
I survived with a “great” experience wink

So be careful guys X-ray transformers are not toys!
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Sulaiman
Sat Feb 23 2008, 05:45AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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125 kV @ 50 or 60 Hz will not 'jump' very far so 1m/1yd is more than adequate
the main thing is to be CERTAIN that any arc will go via the 'chicken stick' wire - not your body
this means checking that the wire is intact and well connected to earth EVERY time you use it.
Make sure that the wire gauge is much thicker than required for the maximum anticipated arc current !
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Kolas
Sat Feb 23 2008, 06:58AM
Kolas Registered Member #102 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:15PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I have found fiber glass rods to be very good for chicken sticks. they don't absorb water, and they don't get very dirty. so they are safe and of course temp resistant. you can find 3-5' pieces if you look hard enough.
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Andyman
Sat Feb 23 2008, 08:16AM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
Location: Upland, California
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Fiberglas rods are easy to find. Just go to home depot, etc. and buy one of those driveway reflectors and pull off the reflector part.
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ArcLight
Sat Feb 23 2008, 12:57PM
ArcLight Registered Member #341 Joined: Thu Mar 23 2006, 07:41PM
Location: Northern Illinois, USA
Posts: 69
Don't know about other places, but around here we have stores by the name of Farm & Fleet that sell general merchandise for use around a farm. One of the products is fiberglass stakes for electric fences. These stakes are 4' long and about .375" in diameter.

Regards, ArcLight
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Spedy
Sat Feb 23 2008, 08:23PM
Spedy Registered Member #964 Joined: Wed Aug 22 2007, 12:39AM
Location: Stockton, CA
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I can get like 10 foot acrylic rods from TapPlastics in downtown stockton, you can also order from them...

Not sure if acrylic would work as well as fiberglass.. In my limited knowledge of plastic materials they are the same thing to me....
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