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FireBird
Thu Feb 21 2008, 12:52AM Print
FireBird Registered Member #1104 Joined: Tue Nov 06 2007, 07:38PM
Location: Wisconsin, United States
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Hello, I'm new to the forums for the most part (although I have looked around and read a lot) and I am making my first SGTC (medium-small 9kv NST) and I have a question about grounding it. Since I don’t feel like sticking a 5+ft pole in my yard I was wondering if 5+ smaller 1ft poles connected together would work just as well. Also I haven’t seen very much information on RFI filters. I am wondering if an RFI filter is needed and how much protection it would provide.

Thanks for any help
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teslacoolguy
Thu Feb 21 2008, 01:01AM
teslacoolguy Registered Member #1107 Joined: Thu Nov 08 2007, 10:09PM
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yes 5 small poles ahould work just fine just make sure they are spaced about 1ft apart and for the rfi filter if you are using a nst mot or obit i strongly recommend it as it will make your transformer last longer and to build one just get some 1/2" pvc and wind 28awg about 5-6" and that should do the trick
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Proud Mary
Thu Feb 21 2008, 01:10AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
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Hi Firebird! There's no simple answer to your question because so much will depend on the conductivity of the ground. Under some circumstances, five short earth spikes might provide a better earth than one long one, but in other conditions it might not.

If you live in a hot, dry place, chances are the top layer of soil will be quite dessicated, and conduct only poorly, so your short rods would not reach the moist, more conductive earth beneath.

Soil Type Typical Resistivity in Ohm/m

Marshy ground 2-2.7
Clay 4-150
Chalk 60-400
Sand 90-8000
Peat 200 upward
Sandy gravel 300-5000
Rock 1000 upward

Soil conductivity is almost exclusively of an electrolytic nature due to the salts dissolved in the water that impregnate and concentrate on the surface by an adherence phenomenon to the sand grains and the earth's clay.

You can improve the performance of your earth enormously by mixing lots (kilos)of salt into the soil surrounding your earth electrode/s, and sprinkling water over it in dry weather.
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FireBird
Thu Feb 21 2008, 02:58AM
FireBird Registered Member #1104 Joined: Tue Nov 06 2007, 07:38PM
Location: Wisconsin, United States
Posts: 34
Thanks again for the quick replies. The conductivity will not be that big of a problem for me because it is just normal soil I would be placing the earth ground in.
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Andyman
Thu Feb 21 2008, 06:42PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
Location: Upland, California
Posts: 256
A bunch of smaller rods will also make it more portable, since you won't have to get a sledge hammer and pound in an 8 foot rod everywhere you want to show off the coil. Just push them all in and pull 'em right back out when you're done.
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