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Chinese caps for marx generator ??

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sparky99
Fri Feb 15 2008, 06:23PM Print
sparky99 Registered Member #1159 Joined: Fri Dec 07 2007, 02:10AM
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Lots of HV caps popping up on eBay lately. Anyone used these Chinese caps in a Marx generator ? Do they hold up ?

Thanks,
bob
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CompWiz
Fri Feb 15 2008, 10:29PM
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I hope there good because I just bought 40 of them for a Marx...
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 15 2008, 10:52PM
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I have twenty of the 2n2 20kV ebay Chinese ones in a Cockcroft & Walton generator where they have been reliable to date - though I shouldn't want to run them without dielectric oil as the leads are set quite close together. I bought a batch of 30kV PIV 10mA rectifiers from the same source, and they too have proved good so far.
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sparky99
Sun Feb 17 2008, 03:05AM
sparky99 Registered Member #1159 Joined: Fri Dec 07 2007, 02:10AM
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Thanks for the replies! Will go ahead & place a bid.

Bob
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Andyman
Fri Feb 22 2008, 07:07PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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Are these the ones you guys are talking about?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150209526757&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150209526376&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI

They would make for a pretty darn small MMC. Probably of only 2 or 4 caps. I don't know if I would trust them, though. They're a little cheap. Amazing1.com has .02uF 10kV tesla coil capacitors for $230! The Chinese ones are .02uF 15kV and only $15.
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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 22 2008, 07:53PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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I've bought both diodes and capacitors from this Chinese firm and found them to be good.

Why pay over the odds for something 'amazing' when you can get standard parts from a source close to the manufacturer? No one could ever afford to make anything at the 'amazing' price!
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CompWiz
Fri Feb 22 2008, 08:25PM
CompWiz Registered Member #1038 Joined: Mon Oct 01 2007, 08:02PM
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That is the same seller I bought my stuff from...
I don't have them yet tho so I cant say how good they are

I ordered these: Link2
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jpsmith123
Fri Feb 22 2008, 10:07PM
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I wonder how well these polypropylene caps will hold up under high pulse current conditions? I see the 15kv 0.02uF caps for example have a spec of: "Ip-p = 130A". That doesn't leave me feeling warm and fuzzy about the tens of kA or more they may see in a marx generator.
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uzzors2k
Sat Feb 23 2008, 10:02PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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I bought 20 capacitors which were equivalent to those, CompWiz, only mine were 470pF. I just (today) used all of them in a bipolar Marx generator which seems to be working well. The only problem I had was from the capacitors arcing over, which was easily solved with some epoxy. Rated for 15kV and only 1cm between the leads. ill I wouldn't take them over 10kV.

Penguin has made a Marx generator from cheap Chinese caps as well. Link2 So they are tried and true.
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CompWiz
Sat Feb 23 2008, 11:49PM
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I had some 10kv caps that likes to arc over too.
I think I used hot glue to stop it.
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