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killa_454
Fri Mar 10 2006, 05:31AM Print
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i recently decided to build a van de graaf generator and the motor i have
is way to fast to use and i want to convert one of my mots to a variac any help
whould be helpful
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Fri Mar 10 2006, 05:37AM
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What voltage is the motor? If it is a 120v one you will need to many turns for it to be feasible to wind the secondary on a mot.

If it is a low voltage one, you have a chance, but it won't be a variac that you are making. You would remove the secondary (the thinner wire), and replace it with some medium sized wire. To get a variable voltage you need to put a tap (just loop the wire a few inches away from the core) every 10 turns or so. Then you conect the motor to one of the taps to get the right voltage.

Good luck and welcome to the forum!
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killa_454
Fri Mar 10 2006, 05:49AM
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the motor is 120v. also is there any oher way to limit the speed and torque

i have a light dimmer its rated 600 watts but i dont think it whould cut it


(Edit: fixed double post)
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Quantum Singularity
Fri Mar 10 2006, 07:02AM
Quantum Singularity Registered Member #158 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 09:53PM
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Dimmers are normaly triac if i am not mistaken... and i dont think an inductive load would work that well (somethng about letting the smoke out of the dimmer switch?). Sounds like you need to get yourself a variac... I have two I got from hamfests - both rated at 7.5A / 120 (the ones that will go a bit over 120) and i paid $15 for one a $35 for the other. I also got a 50A one free from a friend who worked at a school and they used it for a stage light dimmer and i guess wanted to get rid of it for some reason.
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Dr. Shark
Fri Mar 10 2006, 12:45PM
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
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The speed control in power drills usually works with a triac, so I am sure there are ways to do this, even if it is not as simple as hoocking up the dimmer switch to the motor. Try to google for powerdrill schematics.
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Plasmaniac
Fri Mar 10 2006, 03:15PM
Plasmaniac Registered Member #206 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 03:17PM
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I was playing around with some simple phase control circruits some 3 years ago and I also tried to drive a vacuum cleaner motor and it didn't work at all. A "real" PWM control would be better.
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ragnar
Sat Mar 11 2006, 12:13AM
ragnar Registered Member #63 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:18AM
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Here's my not-variac =)
1142036023 63 FT3694 Notvariac2

1142036023 63 FT3694 Notvariac
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Steve Conner
Sat Mar 11 2006, 08:36PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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The SCR firing circuits I developed for controlling voltage in my SSTCs will do motor speed control fine. I tested them with vacuum cleaner motors and they seemed to work no problem. Special lamp dimmers for low voltage halogen lamps with transformers also work. I used one of these to control the speed of the rotary gap motor (a vacuum cleaner motor again) on my old Tesla coil.

IME, it's just the cheap lamp dimmers that can't cope with motors. I tried a cheap one on my gap motor and it fried spectacularly :-@
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